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Old 08-13-2015, 05:58 PM
 
Location: United States
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There's "more to the story" but you don't know a lot about the situation. LOL

This was heading to the courts one way or the other, it's not a victory for anyone, that will be decided. I don't know what the point was of these needless threats by a bunch of rednecks.

I have to wonder what these Oath Keepers do for a living, are they retired on social security that they have this much time to travel around the country.
I'm at least willing to admit that I don't have all of the details of the story. I know enough about this situation to know that the media didn't touch on what this is really all about.

Post #8 in this thread by MTSilvertip was a nice overview of the situation.

I agree with you that there really isn't much of a story here unless the government does something stupid, and initiates a confrontation with the Oath Keepers.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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That just refers to their visits into town. They won't be in camo or openly carrying firearms when they come into town for groceries.
When you actually go there and see for yourself, then I will believe that stupid claim.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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Within Lincoln, yes.

Back at base, it's summer camp for arrested development.

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Keep on believing that while you cower in your basement.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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White Hope Mine has a mining permit in the Helena National Forest in Montana. That permit places certain restrictions on surface operations. The operators built a garage and new road in the park without permission.
Armed Oath Keepers are now "protecting the mine" and the owners have blocked public roads and access to "their property" in the park.

U.S. Attorney Michael Cotter filed a civil suit Tuesday in federal court in Helena, Montana against George Kornec and Phil Nappo, owners of the White Hope Mine near Lincoln, Montana. The suit alleged the miners opened a road, built a garage and cut down trees on their mining claim without authorization, stored another individual's explosives on the site, and illegally turned members of the public away from the land by locking the gates to the property shut and posting no-trespassing signs.

The owners of a Montana gold mine sent a letter to the U.S. Forest Service earlier this month warning its employees to stay off the owners' property.

"Anyone entering onto the White Hope Mine, without previous coordination, will be charged" and arrested under Montana code, the letter read, according to court documents.


https://www.rt.com/usa/312329-oath-k...-montana-mine/

Armed Militia Converges On Montana Gold Mine, And The Feds Are Stepping In

So, these guys are defacing public property and excluding the public from gaining access.

They'll lose, no matter how many militia fools join them.

This will be settled in court.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: CO
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Keep on believing that while you cower in your basement.
Yep.....

Cowering from the notion of idiotic, ignorant, stunted adolescents playing Army.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I'm at least willing to admit that I don't have all of the details of the story. I know enough about this situation to know that the media didn't touch on what this is really all about.

Post #8 in this thread by MTSilvertip was a nice overview of the situation.

I agree with you that there really isn't much of a story here unless the government does something stupid, and initiates a confrontation with the Oath Keepers.
The Oath Keepers went to the Bundy Ranch after several rulings by United States Courts already rendered an opinion that found him at fault.

There is really no need for them to elevate a situation that will be decided by the courts, this groups presence adds nothing. Lacking their presence this is a story played out across the US with little fanfare.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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You don't have to worry about the NY Times, LA Times, WSJ or Washington Post or any major news outlet carrying this story, there is none.

The only story is those attempting to make it into a major story.

No story? You react as if it were the hottest topic on CD.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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I'm guessing a disability retirement for a section 8 and food stamps.

I think the majority are conservatives and not liberals. It's not an OWS event.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: United States
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The Oath Keepers went to the Bundy Ranch after several rulings by United States Courts already rendered an opinion that found him at fault.

There is really no need for them to elevate a situation that will be decided by the courts, this groups presence adds nothing. Lacking their presence this is a story played out across the US with little fanfare.
If the Forest Service was simply going to use the courts to settle this issue, and not try to muscle the miners off their claim, then your are right, there is no need for the Oath Keeper to be there. However, there seems to be enough reason to believe that the FS intends to try to muscle them off the claim for the miners to call for the Oath Keepers.

The Bundy Ranch is a whole different issue all together. There was good reason to believe that large land developers were using the BLM to push ranchers out, so the they could develop their land.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If the Forest Service was simply going to use the courts to settle this issue, and not try to muscle the miners off their claim, then your are right, there is no need for the Oath Keeper to be there. However, there seems to be enough reason to believe that the FS intends to try to muscle them off the claim for the miners to call for the Oath Keepers.

The Bundy Ranch is a whole different issue all together. There was good reason to believe that large land developers were using the BLM to push ranchers out, so the they could develop their land.
I find it amusing that the Oath Keepers protested against the court decsion in Nevada but in this case they want the court to intervene. If the ruling once again goes against the property owner and this miner is kicked off his property will they walk away, or more of the same protests.
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