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I did not pull Hillary's tong, I did not tell her what to promise her voters, she did that on her own and by doing that she said that she does not really represent me and mine.
Hillary and Jeb.
There is over 300 million people in the US, we can't find leaders so we have to vote for dynasties ? Bush 3.0 v Clinton 2.0 ? I mean really.
Affordable Care Act needs fixing. Obamacare needs fixing. The notion behind it I agree with, but the execution sucks.
Other then Obacare being ruled a TAX by the supreme court.
I work for a small software company. So I see how this tax is damaging to small business. For small business Obamacare is very expensive. People are simply leaving small business jobs because they need better health insurance. We have also not seen salary increases, average salaries have not really risen in a decade (Obamacare is very expensive). Anyway, I could get better and cheaper coverage before Obamacare. Obamacare website is offering me $600 a month health plan with 5k in deductibles.
In the meanwhile Hillary is trying to "champion" a federal $15 min wage. I just have 2 questions for here. 1. Have you ever taken economics classes ? like microeconomics 101 ? If the answer is "yes" then question #2 does this tax sound like a good idea ?
Obama's actually quite moderate - more of a corporatist than anything else. Remember that Obamacare was designed by conservatives in the 90s as a market-based alternative to government healthcare.
Also, that wasn't passed by fiat. It was debated for a year and voted upon. The only sketchiness was the speed of the vote, but they've since amended aspects of it based on feedback and its component parts are very popular.
spoken like a true extremist partisan...part of the problem.
An example of an extremist is to tell a lie on the senate floor to sway an election, admit it, and suffer no consequence.
An extremist passes legislation without reading or understanding it and does so while acting as someone else's very well paid agent/representative.
An extremist would say, 'we have to pass it to find out what is in it'....and keep her job.
An extremist appoints an energy czar who admits we have to raise our gasoline and energy costs to the exorbinately high prices paid in European countries.
An extremist bypasses the people's representatives to smother the economy in regulations while admonishing the scotus to not ignore the will of the people and their representatives.
An extremist blames a video for an attack on an embassy then lies to the world and the familys of the fallen to protect his political agenda.
Yeah, Trump is a moderate. He's on the center-left! This is a big part of why the GOP establishment doesn't like him. The other part is that he won't take their money and won't let them influence him. Trump hasn't said anything bigoted about immigrants, if that's what you are getting at. My wife is a brown skinned lady who was born in a country that was once colonized by the Spaniards. Her maiden name is a Spanish one! She supports Trump and is as opposed to illegal immigration as I am! Trump has a very reasonable approach to immigration.
The transgendered are profoundly mentally ill. The rest of society should not have to accomodate them so they can go into the women's bathroom even if they are large men like Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner. We should not put the burden on the rest of society to pay for the surgery and hormones with health insurance when this stuff doesn't even begin to treat the underlying psychological issue. Just because something is discriminatory doesn't mean it's wrong. No reasonable person thinks that all discrimination is wrong. If you think that all discrimination is wrong, then you aren't a reasonable person.
Or vote conservative, and have them revert civil rights. My conservative dad doesn't even believe women need suffrage. The last Republican victory (I think it was senate or house), they voted down advancements in gay rights.
Look, there isn't a conservative running (or not running) that would repeal ["revert"] civil rights. I don't know where you have heard this, but it is a lie.
"Gay rights" are not "civil rights." So-called "gay rights" are "special rights" and they don't even deserve to be referred to as "rights." So called "gay 'marriage'" falls into this category. Marriage means only one thing, historically, and no court has the Constitutional authority to change the definition of words like "marriage." A court has only been given the authority to decide cases of law, that is, interpret law, not to make law, change law, or least of all, decide what the definition of "marriage" should be. Our Supreme Court has been corrupted by Liberal thinking, and an attitude that they are the final arbiter of all things.
Employment non-discrimination laws are fine, so long as they aren't used (as they often have been) to hire a minority person who is less qualified than an applicant who is white (for example). In that case, it is 'reverse discrimination.'
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I would vote conservative if:
They were in favor of human rights for women, blacks, and LGBT (we don't need to force people to perform marriages. We can allow priests to decide and make it up to the church)
We are in favor of human rights, but "gay so-called 'marriage'" doesn't fall into the category of a human right.
The church has already been given it's instructions on such matters. Those instructions are found in a book which sets out all the rules that govern a church, and explains in detail what is and is not permissible, and how to deal with non-compliance. That book is called the Bible.
No church that wishes to remain faithful to the Word of God is going to perform a so-called "gay marriage"
Furthermore, any church that would allow a practicing homosexual to become a member of the church would be guilty of serious error, and subject to God's judgement.
It is possible for a "gay" person to repent of their sin, receive Christ and be saved, free at last from what must be a terrible burden to bear. I have heard of such conversions. It is not impossible.
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They actually appeared to care about being good stewards of Earth (since it says God gave it to them) instead of making up crap about how global warming is just politics.
So, in your opinion, if one does not accept "Global Warming" as fact that means we are not being good stewards of the earth?
Because one does not accept Global Warming as a factual event, or phenomenon, but believes it to be myth, for the purposes of fostering a political agenda, does not automatically make that person indifferent to environmental issues. But some of these issues have been taken to extremes, to the point where water is being denied farmers because of the belief that some species is endangered.
Providing food for the population should be the primary consideration. Some of the richest farmland is not being tilled because of bureaucrats deciding that saving some heretofore unknown species is more important than agriculture and abundant food for the table.
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If conservatives or liberals actually stood behind such things, people like me who are on the fence, might be able to vote. Hell, just get rid of the laws forbidding things, and I'd be fine.
Instead, each election it seems, like rather than trying to move towards a center, towards more a balanced society, the parties are instead becoming more polarized. Republican has become more crazed bible-basher with no civil rights, and Democrat has become more socialist and crazy in its own way. Can't we have a president who isn't either another old white man (can't we have a female Republican president?) or promising the world in order to overturn centuries of checks and balances?
I also would like to see the whole deal where they weed out the people that don't make 14% or so of the population from being able to speak. We need a third option rather just two parties.
Checks and balances have been thwarted by Barack Obama and Democrats
Have you listened to Carly Fiorina? I think she has some very good answers.
The Democrats' biggest negative is that they refuse to support any environmental or social welfare measure unless it is centrally controlled, policed and financed. This is because as an advocacy ruled by the bureaucratic mindset, they can only see opportunity in a "problem" their "remedies' will address. "Global warming", which a lot of us can discuss if it's conveyed in the more-neutral term "climate change", is a perfect example; until and unless the men and women in the street are convinced that fossil fuel use is the only cause, there's no excuse for a huge bureaucracy which, even if it "solves" the "problem", will have to find a new issue to keep the bureaucrats' paychecks coming - and the tax burden high.
Same rules apply to the societal "safety net", which many of us believe could still serve the truly needy, and at lower cost -- If local oversight were instituted in order to identify and exclude those who seek to turn indolence and irresponsibility into a career.
The transgendered are profoundly mentally ill. The rest of society should not have to accomodate them so they can go into the women's bathroom even if they are large men like Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner. We should not put the burden on the rest of society to pay for the surgery and hormones with health insurance when this stuff doesn't even begin to treat the underlying psychological issue. Just because something is discriminatory doesn't mean it's wrong. No reasonable person thinks that all discrimination is wrong. If you think that all discrimination is wrong, then you aren't a reasonable person.
All legal, institutional discrimination is wrong, period.
Obviously your understanding of transgendered persons is limited. They're people who personally identify as a gender different from their genitals. There's nothing sick or wrong about this. This is the same type of argument homophobes once used to justify their own bigotry. It's as wrong when applied to Ts as it is applied to LGBs.
Have you read much much, or known many transgenered persons? I work with a couple, and they aren't fundamentally different from anyone else. To make make a blanket statement they "are profoundly mentally ill" is simply ignorant bigotry. Sure, some are mentally ill, but to equate all with mental illness is bigotry.
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Most people are in the middle and would identify as socially liberal and fiscally conservative with a touch of libertarian. If they are registered as Democrat the social issues are more important, if they are registered as Republican the fiscal issues are more important.
Right wingers like to believe this for someone reason. It is entirely untrue. Both sides have single issue voters. But both sides also have people who vote based on economic issues before they even begin to think of social ones.
And being for lower taxes and cutting spending doesnt not make one fiscally conservative. It just a slogan and an arbitrary action.
Your caricature of the Republican Party is a product of Democrat propaganda I'm afraid.
The only truly insanely extremist party is the Democrat Party.
Your are so wrong it's pitiful. So I think I could trust you to strongly support either Huckabee or Cruz for president, who do represent the extreme Republican side.
I am not a big fan of LGBT, do not agree when LGBT compares themselves to Blacks or Jews.
Why not? Is it because you find the sex acts gays do with each other to be quite profoundly offensive, making them unworthy to have equal rights? People who engage in such sex acts should be regarded as 2nd class citizens?
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