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Make an effort to buy "Made in the USA". It can easily be done with baked goods. If everyone would put there $$$$ where there mouth is, that would be more than half the battle.
Maybe it's because your view is actually in the minority. Personally, I try to avoid "Made in the USA" products because they are usually overpriced as compared to their "Made in China/Mexico/Vietnam/etc" competitors.
Also, as can be seen from our auto industry, "Made in the USA" means nothing for quality. It just means that the manufacturer had to pay inflated wages to bring that particular product to market.
Good post. This also demonstrates why capitalism is really failing America.
Negative, it explains why our political process is failing America. As long as corporations "are people" and can buy Congress every 2 years, we will have this problem.
When will people realize that something can be good for business, while at the same time being bad for the Nation. If people would put on their critical thinking caps and take off their political party caps they would realize that both parties are playing us for a fool.
To bad he doesn't practice what he preaches! Many of his products are made outside the USA to take advantage of cheap labor and too maximize his profits over american workers. This is nothing but a play on the ignorance of his followers who act on his words and not his actions. I'm not saying your one of them but........
Truth is, if the move lowers the cost of Oreo's, or keep it from rising, most americans will welcome it and the heck with those 600 workers who loss their jobs.
True Dat but you should note that there are no longer any garment workers in the USA - nothing to be don about that now. Those jobs were gone by the 90s.
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I'm the same. Makes no difference to me where a product is made; I care about quality and price.
What does it matter whether or not something was made in the country in which I reside?
Though Americans surely care about quality and price. WE STILL HATE TO HEAR A LOSS OF JOBS... OUR CORPORATIONS CREATED... and to SHIP THE JOBS TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.
Perhaps it says something about those NOT AMERICAN? Who do not feel for the loss? You show no loss that certainly will not help our GHP or growing our economy. Needing every job we can get....
As much as we all pretend otherwise, we live in a global economy. Jobs are going to shift, and any attempt at keeping them here forcefully is (a) misguided and (b) destined to fail. There are numerous benefits for moving jobs offshore, but the most important is cost. It doesn't mater what we try to do to keep the jobs here- if the cost of living elsewhere is lower, then all else equal, the jobs are leaving.
This is especially true of zero-knowledge manufacturing jobs, but also of knowledgeable jobs that are easily offshored such as IT.
Fight it all you want, but there is nothing that any president can do to remove the intrinsic benefit to sending a job overseas. Even if taxes were eliminated from the equation, a worker in Mexico can survive (and likely thrive) on $1/hour, whereas that wouldn't even keep the lights on in a studio apartment here in the US.
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Good post. This also demonstrates why capitalism is really failing America.
These two posters are typical of so many on these threads, and don't really understand how things work.
When they say nothing any president can do to remove the benefits of moving jobs overseas, they are wrong. These jobs were moved not for labor savings, but for something that costs much more than labor.
They moved as they say, due to the cost of sugar. When the U.S. forces the price of sugar sold in the U.S. from twice as much or more than it is sold in any other country in the world, the U.S. Government is what drove Oreo and several other companies out of the U.S. so they can buy sugar at a price that will keep them competitive.
This is a good example of how tariffs and limitations on imports damage the U.S. and cost us jobs. I shudder when so many posters want huge tariffs and quotas on everything that can harm our country and cost jobs. Not only would it cost tremendous numbers of jobs if they had their way, but would drive the price of many consumer items through the roof.
Maybe it's because your view is actually in the minority. Personally, I try to avoid "Made in the USA" products because they are usually overpriced as compared to their "Made in China/Mexico/Vietnam/etc" competitors.
Also, as can be seen from our auto industry, "Made in the USA" means nothing for quality. It just means that the manufacturer had to pay inflated wages to bring that particular product to market.
I'd rather save my money, thank you very much.
Maybe this will help you understand economics since you aren't looking at the big picture and neither are others and yes, I am in the minority because I actually understand economics: Why Buying American Can Save the U.S. Economy - NYTimes.com
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The more LOW-SKILLED decent paying jobs that leave? In the name of competition and a global economy. The more we GROW our SUB-CLASS of low-skilled. No push to attain more... population.
They will continue to grow and conservatives will blame Liberals wanting to cater to them? Not loss of jobs ALREADY HERE LONG ESTABLISHED. Not referring to new small businesses.
Many can take jobs less then $10 a hour even $12. But if offered a company insurance? Even if the company pays a share? The rest lowers their take home pay too. Not just Taxes. Especially to ensure family members at full price, they to must pay.
Corporations push Smart phone plans to the poor too. They want poorer Americans to buy their high-mileage used cars. Trickling down. But then they also must pay Car insurance. Even TV Cable and Satellite plans are high. The poor with bad credit also fail to get the deals most times for a year ect advertised.
ONCE THE POOR DID NOT HAVE THIS. Why if we want a low wage mostly lower Middle-class population. Still employed. To bring our standards to a more GLOBAL LEVEL? We should have a national insurance.
Instead we have a WalMart employ them. Aid them in GETTING GOVERNMENT AID. So they can continue lower competing wages. So FOOD STAMPS(CARD) surely will increase. More on full welfare. If they are more unhireable. As every company wants the best. Hire and fire helps maintain that and prevents Unions.
I go back to me small hometown.... sad it still loses jobs in the area. Some blame states. Taxes to plain laziness. But we are long from the days. Fired today , hired tomorrow. So many young then fail initially in the workplace and get set up for trouble in long periods unemployed. REMENBER THE MOVIE" Back to the Future" The original one. The small town as it was vibrant. Then decades later not so much. Well that is small older towns around me. Minus the adult stores as the movie portrayed.....
So many young in my hometown having kids in welfare. They lack skills and there are not the jobs. Big city poor folk move in to the cheap row housing emptied by those dieing off and their college educated children. Long moved away. So these Big Eastern folk move in. ALL ETHINIC GROUPS. For Good fairly new schools. No gangs and cheap housing. Just no employment. Only late 90s. The School district spoke of consolidating the Elementary school. Built in the 80s. Into the Junior-Senior High School, built in the late 70s. Today with the city folk escaping the city with children. No school needs closure. Graduating clashes are back to 80s level again.
So the more Free-enterprise sees fit to abandon even new facilities in the south... once originally up north. As all through the 90s was going strong. The less low-skilled. ALLOWED TO LEAVE SCHOOL. WHEN WE SHOULD LREADY REQUIRE A 2 YEAR ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL SCHOOL OR COLLEGE. To meet Corporate Americas needs.
Instead at least LUCKILY. We get higher educated immigrants to fill them and the lowest jobs. Our own seek more government assistance. Partly their doing and lack of skills to support the economy as we all want.
It is no coincidence the middle-class continues to shrink and a more two-tiered society evolves. Plenty of blame to go around. BUT THEIR HAS BEEN A POINT. THAT EXPORTING JOBS HAS BEGUN TO DO MORE HARM AT HOME. BUT IMPROVE THE RISE OF THE TRIRD WORLD NATIONS TO NO LONGER ONE.
Our loss becomes their FAST RISE. We evolved China. Their Rise now we might pay for in our slow decline.
Just my opinion. As a Moderate. Seeing both sides. And working from White Collar to Blue-Collar now, from the other side too.
Another greedy company. How about moving all your executive work out of the country too.
Do I really want to eat food that is made out of the country?
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