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The reason why US workers get 26 bucks for unskilled labor is because bread costs 3 bucks a loaf. In the countries where the workers get paid 26 bucks a day, they can buy a hundred pound sack of rice for a 3 busks that will last for a month. While it's very unpatriotic; it's good business sense to outsource if money is your primary objective. I personally would never consider moving my manufacturing facilities out of the country but I don't have any stockholder other than myself to force me into that sort of decision. Salaries and cost of living generally go hand in hand.
Not really true. Salaries and cost of living do not go hand in hand.
Salaries in the U.S. tend to be highest in the world, at least for skilled/professional positions, yet cost of living is lower than in Western Europe, Japan, Canada or Australia.
Yes, cost of living in Mexico is lower in the U.S. than in Mexico, but not much lower. Housing costs about the same. Consumer goods, excepting food, costs about the same. Food is cheaper but not vastly cheaper. Utilities cost the same. Tax rates are actually higher. Cars usually cost more. Yet Mexican salaries are about 1/5 that of the U.S. The fact that bread is 20% cheaper doesn't exactly make up for it.
Creating jobs in Mexico is good because it will reduce illegal immigration
That's another good point.
It's crazy, but the same people who are usually anti-NAFTA, anti-globalist, pro-protectionist are the same ones screaming "seal the borders", "stop immigration" and the like. They don't get it. If you want less immigration from Mexico you want to grow Mexico's economy and shift the U.S. to more skilled positions. You could build a wall 10 miles high and it will not stop illegal immigration if there's still a desperate jobs situation in Mexico.
It's crazy, but the same people who are usually anti-NAFTA, anti-globalist, pro-protectionist are the same ones screaming "seal the borders", "stop immigration" and the like. They don't get it. If you want less immigration from Mexico you want to grow Mexico's economy and shift the U.S. to more skilled positions. You could build a wall 10 miles high and it will not stop illegal immigration if there's still a desperate jobs situation in Mexico.
Because we are losing our jobs here in america as well, we want OUR country back, Get rid of these so-called free trade agreements and send the illegals back home now.
we are sick and tired of sending our jobs overseas, ross perot said it best.
Because we are losing our jobs here in america as well, we want OUR country back, Get rid of these so-called free trade agreements and send the illegals back home now.
But here's the problem- you don't want the U.S., at least not the U.S. as it is and always has been. The U.S. is a country of immigrants and free trade.
It isn't your country, it's a country by and for immigrants. It's a country that has always been geared towards newcomers. That's the whole point of the U.S.
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Originally Posted by miamifloridafan
we are sick and tired of sending our jobs overseas, ross perot said it best.
You are getting far more jobs back. The U.S. only loses the worst jobs, and it gets back the best jobs. That's why our economy is the envy of the world. You want a country of high skilled workers or a country competing with Guatemala and Bangledesh?
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Originally Posted by miamifloridafan
a giant sucking sound.
Suck away, please! That glorious sound is the sound of an open, dynamic economy.
But here's the problem- you don't want the U.S., at least not the U.S. as it is and always has been. The U.S. is a country of immigrants and free trade.
It isn't your country, it's a country by and for immigrants. It's a country that has always been geared towards newcomers. That's the whole point of the U.S.
You are getting far more jobs back. The U.S. only loses the worst jobs, and it gets back the best jobs. That's why our economy is the envy of the world. You want a country of high skilled workers or a country competing with Guatemala and Bangledesh?
Suck away, please! That glorious sound is the sound of an open, dynamic economy.
Mod cut.
And tell ILLEGAL immigrants to stay out of our country, we are tired of terrorized, drug smugglers and other things that are turning america into a third world.
secure the borders now, no more amnesty!
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Creating jobs in Mexico is good because it will reduce illegal immigration
We should have thought about that before we shipped the jobs to China, if we had forethough, then we could have strengthened the North and Central American Continents. !!!!!!! in doing so, we could have brought the Central American nations to fall in line and grasp a Modicum of semblence in developing democratic function.
Instead we shipped the industry 8 thousand miles away... and smiled about it, now we are paying the cost for the madness of doing so. and all we've done is strengthen the Asian Pacific and Far Eastern Asian Nations.
Still we don't grasp it.....
We will know how bad we messed up when the AIIB gains its stature and strength, of which we can't compete, not when all the nations except the U.S. and Japan have signed on as Origination Partners in the AIIB ( Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank)....
Last edited by Chance and Change; 08-28-2015 at 03:52 PM..
We should have thought about that before we shipped the jobs to China, if we had forethough, then we could have strengthened the North and Central American Continents. !!!!!!! in doing so, we could have brought the Central American nations to fall in line and grasp a Modicum of semblence in developing democratic function.
Instead we shipped the industry 8 thousand miles away... and smiled about it, now we are paying the cost for the madness of doing so. and all we've done is strengthen the Asian Pacific and Far Eastern Asian Nations.
Still we don't grasp it.....
We will know how bad we messed up when the AIIB gains its stature and strength, of which we can't compete, not when all the nations except the U.S. and Japan have signed on as Origination Partners in the AIIB ( Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank)....
No idea why you keep on repeating this 'the US is the richest country' rhetoric. I have travelled through the US and I find it run down and dilapidated overall. It is full of small poorly maintained wooden housen, lots of urban decay; much more than any other western country, the infrastructure is terrible, lots of homeless people, many people without affordable health care, hardly any high speed internet or decent cell phone coverage anywhere.
Go streetview Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Chicago, Baltimore, Gary, Camden, Oakland, Compton, St. Louis, rural Texas or even whole states like West Virginia, Ohio or Mississippi if you don't take my word for it.
Australia, Canada, and Western Europe are much richer than the US these days.
Their economies may be large, but it's not even close to the USA's size. Their currencies have gotten weaker to the US dollar these days.
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