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Old 09-20-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Well, DC and surrounds comprise one of the most highly educated areas in the country. There are lots of challenging, high-paying jobs of the sort that enable those few who can qualify for them to make their way toward fat-and-sassy land. Sadly, the bus somehow breaks down for a lot of people who would like to come to the area.
It's also one of the most corrupt and wasteful areas of the country because of it's connections to the federal government, lobbyist and other people looking to suckle tax dollars. There are plenty fat and sassy lands all over this country, most are a lot cleaner and a whole lot prettier than DC though.
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Old 09-20-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Reading this was like listening to a model railroader describe how he conceived and built the backdrops and buildings for Imaginary City, the large urban hub on his HO layout. All very creative and original, but with no apparent connection to reality at all.
Thank you for the kind words of support.
Since you offered no facts in rebuttal, I accept your capitulation.
And the personal insult is high praise, indeed.
Thank you.
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Old 09-20-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Brazil?
Indeed. This is why the Middle Class, what's left of it, has abandoned the DNC and establishment candidates from the GOP.
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Old 09-20-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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Comparing a wide open frontier hundreds of years ago without immigration laws or borders to today is totally ridiculous. The Europeans did not break any laws by coming here. The ancestors of the so-called natives migrated here just like the Europeans did. It's just plain stupid to use the past as an argument against our immigration laws today and the number of immigrants or refugees we decide to allow in here. We have a population of over 320 million today with shortages of jobs and resources.
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Old 09-20-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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I'm 29. I'm not concerned so much on the racial composition of USA in 20 years. My concern is how will we treat each other 20 years from now. Will we truly be united in 20 years? We have never really been united through this nation's history. And I have to consider this. Are we dealing with a collision course, are do we have alot of fear mongers stirring things up so bad that we don't know what is what?
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Old 09-20-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: East Side St. Paul
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With an introduction of 30 million low-skill/no-skill illegal (and to some extent legal) aliens to this country it will have catastrophic results...perhaps already being seen to some extent. In 20 years we will see a lot more of the carnage such an abnormal non-organic form of population introduction will have.



We will have the left-wing liberal progressives to thank for the horror that will be permanent serfdom - a majority under-class.
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Old 09-20-2015, 03:05 PM
 
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With an introduction of 30 million low-skill/no-skill illegal (and to some extent legal) aliens to this country it will have catastrophic results...perhaps already being seen to some extent. In 20 years we will see a lot more of the carnage such an abnormal non-organic form of population introduction will have.



We will have the left-wing liberal progressives to thank for the horror that will be permanent serfdom - a majority under-class.
You have right wingers to thank for that too. Reagan did amnesty. Other Republicans have been soft on illegal immigration.

Truth is, very few elite politicians have a stake in curbing illegal immigration. When one lives around the very wealthy, an interesting dynamic takes place. One can limit one's experience with illegals to the gardener, the landscaper, maid, and other barely skilled occupations. I also theorize this. I suspect that some people see illegals as a cheaper source of labor. One can pay one under the table. Workers who are here LEGALLY will be paid American wages.

Truth is, most of the persons posturing are more concerned about money than anything else. I'm not surprised that there are people who will go soft on illegal immigration. It is about getting the lowest bidder.
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Old 09-20-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: East Side St. Paul
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You have right wingers to thank for that too. Reagan did amnesty. Other Republicans have been soft on illegal immigration.

Truth is, very few elite politicians have a stake in curbing illegal immigration. When one lives around the very wealthy, an interesting dynamic takes place. One can limit one's experience with illegals to the gardener, the landscaper, maid, and other barely skilled occupations. I also theorize this. I suspect that some people see illegals as a cheaper source of labor. One can pay one under the table. Workers who are here LEGALLY will be paid American wages.

Truth is, most of the persons posturing are more concerned about money than anything else. I'm not surprised that there are people who will go soft on illegal immigration. It is about getting the lowest bidder.

So tell me....how will be adding 30 million illegal aliens to the workforce give us legals and natives leverage when we want to make more per hour?

I'd love to see you spin how that is in any way going to give us natives even the slightest bit of benefit.
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Old 09-20-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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So tell me....how will be adding 30 million illegal aliens to the workforce give us legals and natives leverage when we want to make more per hour?

I'd love to see you spin how that is in any way going to give us natives even the slightest bit of benefit.
I never said adding 30 million illegals was a good idea. I said both sides are soft on the issue because it's all about the money for them. People who are here legally and working for American wages are likely seen as a burden to those who want cheaper labor.

In one state, prisoners were used once illegals were chased out. Didn't help those here legally. The ones who don't care are the ones with nothing to lose, or something to gain from illegal immigrants.
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Old 09-20-2015, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I never said adding 30 million illegals was a good idea. I said both sides are soft on the issue because it's all about the money for them. People who are here legally and working for American wages are likely seen as a burden to those who want cheaper labor.

In one state, prisoners were used once illegals were chased out. Didn't help those here legally. The ones who don't care are the ones with nothing to lose, or something to gain from illegal immigrants.
In one state, prisoners were used once illegals were chased out. where is this?
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