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Old 01-20-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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I keep hearing a lot of this sort of statement.

"I endured 8 yrs of communism under Obama."

"The 8 yr national nightmare is finally over."

"Obama the socialist, good riddance."

" Finally free after 8 yrs!".


So lets do this please. Lets have those that keep making these statements, or just thinking them and agreeing, explain their statements.Please explain, in detail and with specifics, how your life changed from what it was under GWB, and how that is due to Obama's actions, and how it will revert back again to what it was under Bush now that Trump is POTUS and will undo the things that Obama has done to enslave you to communism and socialism.

No generalities. No, "life sucked under Obama". We keep hearing statements alleging horrible conditions, socialism, communism, inhibiting the freedom of Americans under Obama, so please, give the specifics of what each of you is referring to.


And before it is alleged as a substitute for giving a thoughtful answer, no, I did not vote for HC. Not a Hilbot, not an HC supporter angry she lost, not a liberal. I actually liked much of Trumps speech, and like his America first policy. I am glad to have a POTUS that will appoint conservative SC justices, and conservative judges throughout the nation to fill up the void that exists now and is creating a judicial crisis. I hope he is a very successful POTUS, so much so that he does in 2020 to the Dem nominee what Reagan did to Mondale. That would show that he has been enormously successful, and I sincerely hope for that.

No, THIS is just about getting some logic applied to the statements that keep coming from the right regarding the supposed 8 yrs of communist rule we have just endured under a guy that got elected twice and leaves office at about 55% approval rating, which, in case you didnt know, is slightly above average for departing presidents .

So lets see these specifics please.
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Old 01-21-2017, 05:55 AM
 
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Obama is a corporatist, Capitalist and politically a center right. He has nothing to do with left, communism socialism facism, nazims and islamism. Uneducated whites are still spewing fake news comments.
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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Bet you can't wait for a Bernie type to hold the reigns of power.

And never say never. Trump stands as testament of that expression.
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I keep hearing a lot of this sort of statement.

"I endured 8 yrs of communism under Obama."

"The 8 yr national nightmare is finally over."

"Obama the socialist, good riddance."

" Finally free after 8 yrs!".


So lets do this please. Lets have those that keep making these statements, or just thinking them and agreeing, explain their statements.Please explain, in detail and with specifics, how your life changed from what it was under GWB, and how that is due to Obama's actions, and how it will revert back again to what it was under Bush now that Trump is POTUS and will undo the things that Obama has done to enslave you to communism and socialism.

No generalities. No, "life sucked under Obama". We keep hearing statements alleging horrible conditions, socialism, communism, inhibiting the freedom of Americans under Obama, so please, give the specifics of what each of you is referring to.


And before it is alleged as a substitute for giving a thoughtful answer, no, I did not vote for HC. Not a Hilbot, not an HC supporter angry she lost, not a liberal. I actually liked much of Trumps speech, and like his America first policy. I am glad to have a POTUS that will appoint conservative SC justices, and conservative judges throughout the nation to fill up the void that exists now and is creating a judicial crisis. I hope he is a very successful POTUS, so much so that he does in 2020 to the Dem nominee what Reagan did to Mondale. That would show that he has been enormously successful, and I sincerely hope for that.

No, THIS is just about getting some logic applied to the statements that keep coming from the right regarding the supposed 8 yrs of communist rule we have just endured under a guy that got elected twice and leaves office at about 55% approval rating, which, in case you didnt know, is slightly above average for departing presidents .

So lets see these specifics please.
Obama was no job creator. Obama was for shipping jobs overseas and growing our government.

"You didn't built that".. Obama statement that said the government is all and the people are nothing.

Spread the wealth around, social justice , collective thinking, all Communist concepts that Obama talked many times over.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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Obama was no job creator. Obama was for shipping jobs overseas and growing our government.

"You didn't built that".. Obama statement that said the government is all and the people are nothing.

Spread the wealth around, social justice , collective thinking, all Communist concepts that Obama talked many times over.
Saul Alinsky is the media's hero as he is to Obama the neighborhood socialist community organizer...loved watching Barry clench his teeth bite his lip through out The Donald's speech,
Billy Clinton checking out the women and Hillary eating crow...priceless!
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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Obama was no job creator. Obama was for shipping jobs overseas and growing our government.

"You didn't built that".. Obama statement that said the government is all and the people are nothing.

Spread the wealth around, social justice , collective thinking, all Communist concepts that Obama talked many times over.
Just curious if that's a serious answer or sarcasm?
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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It would be a waste of time. I'll let Trump show you the difference. He was elected to do just that.
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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-government bailout of big banks so they could give their executives big bonuses
-Unaffordable Care Act, which lied about cutting costs, keeping doctors, etc.
-executive orders, disregarding the lawmaking process of the Constitution
-bragged about how he was going to be bi-partisan, but was probably the most partisan president we've had
-preached on how there was no black America and white America, but repeatedly pointed out that there was a black America and a white America
-claiming to be black when in fact he was abandoned by his African father, had no slave ancestors, grew up in a white family, white neighborhood, went to white schools, had white friends, and only "became black" for political opportunism
-had no concern whatsoever for the growing federal debt
-had no experience running anything before becoming president and it showed while he was in office
-pissed off foreign countries and lacked any leadership, causing the Middle East to fall into chaos
-refused to confront the hateful teachings of Mohammed, since he himself was a Muslim
-he and his family showed an excessive display of lavishness with taxpayer dollars with all their travels, golfing, celebrity concerts, etc. while most Americans were suffering and the debt was increasing

I could go on and on, but would it do any good?
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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So far not one specific example of what I asked concerning what Obama did.

The last post applies to every POTUS who ever served practically , and what points wouldn't are irrelevant . What does it matter, for example , what race Obama identifies as relevant to my question? Unless it simply bothers some Obama haters that he is black, which we have been assured repeatedly isn't the case .


So is it just a lot easier to make ignorant statements about Obama being a communist than it is to provide factual details of this communism ?

Apparently so .
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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Bet you can't wait for a Bernie type to hold the reigns of power.

And never say never. Trump stands as testament of that expression.



This post is the biggest fail of all, so far . Why even bother with this kindergarten , mental midget response ? Did I not outline that I didn't support HC, and liked some things Trump is for, including conservative ones ?


What an infantile response to my question. But actually, about par for what I expected , rather than an intelligent fact filled one. Which is why I tried to head off as many of these ignorant type responses as possible with my explanation of not being an HC voter and liking certain things about Trump I've seen so far .

It obviously wasn't 100% successful in keeping folks from making them though.
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