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View Poll Results: Should there be background check for gun purchases/ownership?
Yes 53 63.86%
No 30 36.14%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-04-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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Vote & Discuss regarding the gun issue

 
Old 10-04-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Background checks make just about as much sense as preemployment drug testing. They may weed out a few idiots, but there are too many ways to get around them to make the time and expense justifiable.
 
Old 10-04-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

Already done. You knew that, right?
 
Old 10-04-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: California
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A background checks look for someone who has a criminal record, these nuts do not usually have records.
 
Old 10-04-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
Many weapons change hands without a background check, you knew that right?
 
Old 10-04-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Many weapons change hands without a background check, you knew that right?
Yes they do. You do know, of course, that if one is transferred to a person not allowed to own one that also is a crime committed by the transferor as well as the transferee?

A felony.


Do you suppose these guys went through a background check?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...b28_story.html


Or this one?

Drive-by shooting wounds Clarion University student at party | Local News - WTAE Home

The reality is that most of those advocating for background checks don't seem to know they're already done.
 
Old 10-04-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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And HOW exactly is that going to stop someone from buying a gun off the street?
 
Old 10-04-2015, 04:04 PM
 
Location: California
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If you live like this, i think you are nuts...
So what does that have to do with a background check?
 
Old 10-04-2015, 04:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by JimRom View Post
Background checks make just about as much sense as preemployment drug testing. They may weed out a few idiots, but there are too many ways to get around them to make the time and expense justifiable.
Between November 30, 1998 and January 2014 there have been;

617,970 background checks due to a felony convictions.

111,648 denials to fugitives from Justice.

107, 072 denials due to convictions for domestic violence,

90,896 due to drug addiction or use of controlled substances

51,010 for state prohibitions.

45,391 due to protective orders or domestic

24,565 due to an indictment

13,316 due to mental health

13,117 unlawful alien

5,656 denied person file

796 dishonorable discharge

59 for renounced citizenship

That's, 1,081,496 denials, how that is considered ineffective is simply beyond me. If the argument is that after these "criminals" attempts to purchase weapons from licensed dealers will get their weapons from somewhere else, where to they get them. Well, when you consider the fact that only 10% to 15% of firearms used in crimes are stolen, clearly the secondary market of gun shows, private dealers and straw purchasers comes front and center. If the "ineffective and unreasonable" requirement for all buyers purchasing weapons from gun shows or private dealers were implemented and reasonable limits on the number of guns purchased during certain time periods, the access of guns to criminals would not be stopped but one hell of a bent in the supply guns in the hands of those who should not have them.
 
Old 10-04-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
Yes they do. You do know, of course, that if one is transferred to a person not allowed to own one that also is a crime committed by the transferor as well as the transferee?

A felony.


Do you suppose these guys went through a background check?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...b28_story.html


Or this one?

Drive-by shooting wounds Clarion University student at party | Local News - WTAE Home

The reality is that most of those advocating for background checks don't seem to know they're already done.
Private sales do not go through background checks.
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