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Old 10-16-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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Requiring guns and ammo to be locked up at all times is so far beyond common sense it is comical.
Using their common sense, you'd need to unlock the knife drawer before setting the table but then that would expose the utter senseless propositions they put forth.

They claim there are common sense gun laws as they describe them yet, they would never apply them to any other argument than gun control, regardless of the dangers to safety, security or the preservation of life.

Without any doubt, you could visit any of their homes and find poisons in the form of household products unlocked, knives left in sliding drawers available to anyone wanting to use them. When confronted with the FACT that knives are used more often to commit murder than assault weapons as defined by the FBI, notice what they do, they change the definition to one of their own personal agendas and claim it isn't true. Then they turn right around and use some alternative statistic from the exact same source in twisted double talk.

The record is right here in this thread.
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Using their common sense, you'd need to unlock the knife drawer before setting the table but then that would expose the utter senseless propositions they put forth.

They claim there are common sense gun laws as they describe them yet, they would never apply them to any other argument than gun control, regardless of the dangers to safety, security or the preservation of life.

Without any doubt, you could visit any of their homes and find poisons in the form of household products unlocked, knives left in sliding drawers available to anyone wanting to use them. When confronted with the FACT that knives are used more often to commit murder than assault weapons as defined by the FBI, notice what they do, they change the definition to one of their own personal agendas and claim it isn't true. Then they turn right around and use some alternative statistic from the exact same source in twisted double talk.

The record is right here in this thread.
You are being selective by only using long guns. The fact is that 68% are murdered with guns and only 13% with knifes.
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Those of you who say you are gun owners, but would like more gun regulations and restrictions should realize that you invite complete gun confiscation upon yourself and if not yourself then your children. And you would deserve it
I don't drinking the kool-aid the NRA feeds us.
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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You are being selective by only using long guns. The fact is that 68% are murdered with guns and only 13% with knifes.
Please follow along. The assault weapons bans do not target all firearms, just a certain type. If knives are used to kill more often than assault weapons, why ban assault weapons and not knives since knives are easier to obtain?

Why can any child go into a store an buy a knife? Why are people not required to get a background check for knives which have no practical use in the home? Why can people buy as many knives as often as they wish?

Ok, since so called assault weapons are a certain classification, why not do the same with knives and ban only those "Rambo" style knives since "assault weapons" are classifed only by very arbitrary functions and appearance? Surely using the term "assault knife" would work.

It makes as much "common sense".

Is not an assault weapons ban subjective too?

Obviously the FBI finds it necessary to break out deaths caused by knives and then also various firearms types. Argue the subjectiveness of their statistics with them.
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Would you apply the same rules to everythign in a locked house? For instance, I leave my baseball bat out and someone breaks into my house and steals it. Later they beat a person to death with it, should I be held liable?
"gun" =/= "baseball bat"

But … If you leave a loaded pistol easily accessible in your house and a child gets hold of it and shoots another child, you should be held liable, yes … ??? No … ???
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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"gun" =/= "baseball bat"

But … If you leave a loaded pistol easily accessible in your house and a child gets hold of it and shoots another child, you should be held liable, yes … ??? No … ???
Only if you should be held liable for every object you own that harms another.
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Using their common sense, you'd need to unlock the knife drawer before setting the table but then that would expose the utter senseless propositions they put forth.

They claim there are common sense gun laws as they describe them yet, they would never apply them to any other argument than gun control, regardless of the dangers to safety, security or the preservation of life.

Without any doubt, you could visit any of their homes and find poisons in the form of household products unlocked, knives left in sliding drawers available to anyone wanting to use them. When confronted with the FACT that knives are used more often to commit murder than assault weapons as defined by the FBI, notice what they do, they change the definition to one of their own personal agendas and claim it isn't true. Then they turn right around and use some alternative statistic from the exact same source in twisted double talk.

The record is right here in this thread.
Just to be *safe* … I suppose you should just stab, shoot and/or poison everybody before they do so to you … ??? (God only knows what you might do with an ordinary household pressure cooker … )
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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Only if you should be held liable for every object you own that harms another.
Oops, that logic bomb did it. How many children are poisoned in their own homes each year? When was the last time the parents were held liable and prosecuted for those deaths?

Are there not cabinet locks, open door alarms, cabinets or places of the reach of the smallest children, warnings on thw product labels and yet the most innocwnt still die horrible, slow and painful deaths because their parents are idiots.

Where are all the media blasts about these deaths?
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Every day over 300 children are poisoned.

Every day 2 children die because of poisoning.

Where is the poison control but more important, where are the prosecutions and prison terms for the responsible parents who didn't lock up those poisons?

Do the gun control people support prison terms for these parents?
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Only if you should be held liable for every object you own that harms another.
THAT is a shining example why I refer to the Gun "Nut" Culture …

Just … WOW …

(BTW, however, courts of law disagree with your position … So …)
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