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It would be great if they just quit manufacturing them.
Why would they when they are used in many countries?
Do you think law enforcement should be forced to give
up standard capacity magazines? A Glock 19 comes
standard with fifteen round magazines. It would be
beyond dumb to have cops (or citizens) runnin' round
with ten round magazines for no purpose.
You are adding your own words to the amendment to win your point, and it won't work.
No where in the 2nd does it state "working arm"
Ammunition is NOT part of a working arm..
It is in addition to a gun.
Ammunition is not permanently attached to a gun, like say, the trigger.
The trigger is part of a working gun. so is the hammer, but you can talk till you are blue in the face, and believe what you want, but the mechanics of a gun are just that, mechanics.
True, the gun needs ammunition to function, but ammunition is not a gun, or as the 2nd amendment states, arms.
If you want to change the wording of the amendment to include ammunition, contact your rep in congress, but until then, the ammunition for guns could very well be made unlawful, if states like California rule it so.
You may not think it could happen, but today, with all the innocent people being mowed down by people with guns capable of releasing multiple bullets at one time, it is just a matter of time before strict rules regarding gun ownership, and if that fails, outright bans on ammunition may become the rule.
Like many, I can see the writing on the wall, and it is more than obvious the gun owners are too blinded by their passion for guns, to face the reality.
Their are many laws around today that people never suspected would come to pass, in fact, never gave them a second thought.
The patriot act comes to mind.
Who would have ever thought as little as ten years ago, we would practically have to strip naked just to board a plane?
Who would have ever thought as little as ten years ago, our phone calls would, and could be monitored?
So, don't for one minute say, or think it could never happen.
Rules change, and laws change.
This is what happens in a changing society, and these changes are their to keep up with society.
Bob.
everyone is all concerned with the 'well regulated' part of the 2nd Amendment. take your firearm to a gunsmith and ask them to regulate your firearm and they should ask you for what charge and bullet weight.
too bad liberals like you do not truly understand what 'well regulated' truly means in the context of firearms.
But what's the point?
It only impacts the honest citizen.
If a criminal is using a gun, it's already illegal.
If he has a hi-cap magazine, is it more illegal?
Once again, show me exactly where in the 2nd amendment "ammunition" is stated.
This issue is bound to come up in any legislation having to do with gun control.
If it isn't clearly stated, and is an assumption, that will be the argument.
Assumption is not fact, it is an idea that something exist, but that does not make it so.
I can assume I am going to own a Corvette C7, but unless I dole out the big bucks, and sign a legal document showing ownership, it becomes an assumption.
The 2nd amendment mentions arms, but nowhere does it mention ammunition.
Ammunition is an assumed fact of the amendment, but unless stated in the legal document, it just isn't enforceable .
Perhaps had the founders included "the right to bear arms, and ammunition, shall not be infringed", the rights would be protected under the constitution, but that is not the way the amendment was written , and ratified.
You can bet those on the side of gun control in the California legislature will argue this point to the hilt.
Assuming, and fact are two entirely different things.
I believe this case will go forward in the legislature, and may well be passed.
If it is passed, and becomes law, you can bet other forms of ammunition will also be questioned.
I believe this is just the beginning.
Many laws and policies throughout the country, got their start in California.
There is an old saying, 'As California goes, so goes the nation".
Regardless of how others in the country view California, it is the leader in how the rest of the country performs.
One very good example of that is in auto emissions.
Started in California, and now is practiced not only in this country, but world wide.
Too those of you who don't think California wheels clout in this world, you best read up on history.
Bob.
show me where in the 2nd Amendment that the government (both state and federal are allowed to make any kind of law against the peoples right to keep and bear arms?
And that's the point of passing the whole law. Only criminals will have large capacity mags.
Doesn't sound like a good idea, does it?
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