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Recently there have been some events that demonstrate to most of us. A few weeks ago there was 20" of rainfall in SC causing massive flooding. Now we have 10" rainfall in TX that will be followed by the rain from the most powerful hurricane in history Patricia. Looking back a few months we had and still have the fires in the west. There is a definite change in weather patterns and events no matter what you choose to call it or not call it.
Actually it's a bit more than 10 inches.... Much of Texas was deluged Saturday by pounding, relentless rains -- up to 20 inches, in some locales -- causing dangerous flooding that washed away cars, a train and, possibly, one person.....But it's just normal, not climate change...
Actually it's a bit more than 10 inches.... Much of Texas was deluged Saturday by pounding, relentless rains -- up to 20 inches, in some locales -- causing dangerous flooding that washed away cars, a train and, possibly, one person.....But it's just normal, not climate change...
Yeah before man "broke the climate", Texas never was hit by tropical systems or droughts
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Wettest year statewide - 2004 (FNEP)1 40.22 in. 1919 (NCDC)2 41.93 in.
Driest year statewide -- 1917 (FNEP)1 14.38 in. 1917 (NCDC)2 14.99 in.
Greatest annual - Clarksville -- 1873 109.38 in.
Least annual - Wink - 1956 1.76 in.
†Greatest in 24 hours - Alvin, July 25-26, 1979 43.00 in.
Furthermore, there is evidence that hurricane activity was higher during the Little Ice Age
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The EHA index (Fig. 4c) spans three distinct climatological intervals of the last millennium; the relatively warm mean climatic state of the Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA; ~900–1350 CE), the relatively cool mean state of the Little Ice Age (LIA; ~1450–1850 CE), and the period of centennial warming, which distinguishes the Industrial Era since 1870. In general, average Caribbean-wide storm activity during the MCA was lower (EHA ~ 65.1 × 102 kt2) than that of the LIA (~73.3 × 102 kt2) and the 20th Century average (EHA ~ 74.7 × 102 kt2; ACE ~ 67.3 × 102 kt2). However, hurricane activity during the LIA is characterised by a greater amplitude of variation where increased frequency of short intervals of enhanced and suppressed activity correspond to periods of low natural radiative forcing. The highest average levels of activity (EHA ~ 86 × 102 kt2; 1580–1650 CE) occurred during the late 16th and early 17th Centuries, a trend corroborated by a coupled ocean-atmosphere climate model simulation of annual basin-wide tropical cyclone counts35, which indicates heightened activity during the LIA (Fig. 4d). Further support for enhanced activity during the LIA comes from a record of hurricane deposits in a coastal karst basin in the Bahamas, which suggests heightened activity occurred between 1350 and 165025. This important result suggests that average hurricane activity during the industrial period has not exceeded its longer-term natural variability during the last millennium.
LOL.....Did you miss the trend line? Also those figures are for January to December (a full year). The highest yearly precipitation is 42.3 inches in McKinny....We are talking about 20 inches in 24 hours here, and probably a lot more to come in the next few days.
Edit...You hurricane info is incomplete as it only covers the Atlantic
No comment on extreme weather event records that have been in place for 100+ years in Texas when there was "safe" levels of CO2 in the atmosphere?
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Did you miss the trend line?
OMG it's a litter wetter by a couple of inches now then what it was 100 years ago Like that is a bad thing. Do you think climate is ever static? Would it have made you happier if the trend line was going down? Oh that's right, that would be man made drought for Texas..... There are decadal trends. Ever hear of the Dust Bowl? Thankfully it IS wetter in Texas now then it was in the past. Oddly alarmists such as Joe Romm have been touting a perma drought for Texas
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Also those figures are for January to December.
And your point?
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.We are talking about 20 inches in 24 hours here, and probably a lot more to come in the next few days.
Been there done that....
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The greatest 24-hour rainfall ever recorded in Texas at an official observing site occurred at Albany, Shackelford County, on Aug. 4, 1978: 29.05 inches.
And like I said, Texas is no stranger to tropical systems. They are after all in the Gulf of Mexico
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LOL.....Did you miss the trend line? Also those figures are for January to December (a full year). The highest yearly precipitation is 42.3 inches in McKinny....We are talking about 20 inches in 24 hours here, and probably a lot more to come in the next few days.
Edit...You hurricane info is incomplete as it only covers the Atlantic
It is very amusing to hear the rationalizations of the "global warming cult" ( gee....... they figured out that the world was not warming, so they changed their agenda to "climate change"!!!)
Looking at "climate change" over a period of a few hundred years is like trying to read a book while placing your face two inches from the page. Are you too obtuse to understand that climate is a process that is cyclical (gee...... the fossil record shows this), and that changes occur over LONG periods of time (100 years is a blink of an eye in climate science), and that CURRENT CO2 LEVELS ARE VERY LOW COMPARED TO AVERAGE CO2 LEVELS IN GEOLOGICAL TIME???
Wake up!!!!! "Climate change" is a hoax and a scam. Transition to "alterntive" energy sources makes sense, but the impetus via "climate change" is a hoax to facilitate redistribution of wealth and obtain benefits of "carbon exchanges" to a few wealthy individuals at the expense of the American middle class. Al Gore has RAPED the middle class, gutted the coal industry, and increased unemployment for gains in his personal wealth.
Global warming = scam= redistribtution of wealth= decreased middle class incomes= increased wealth for the "elite".
The term climate change originated in 1956, and global warming was first used in 1975....In any case they describe two different things.....Global warming is the earth's temperature increase caused from adding greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere....Climate change is caused by global warming and describes how familiar weather patterns change as the earth's temperature increases.
You people constantly bring up the distant past, a past long before modern humans even existed...CO2 levels are higher today than they have been for more than 2 million years, when the Arctic was ice free with an average temperature 14 degrees warmer than today....I can't imagine what the tropics were like then.
It is your choice (a poor choice I think) to ignore climate change, but thankfully the majority accept the science and are calling for action to mitigate AGW.
Them gosh dang scientists. Telling me such crap and load of bull#@!!. People evolved! The earth goes AROUND the sun. . . That vaccinations cause you to have immunity - to diseases
Its all a gosh darn conspiracy by the devil to stop us from driving trucks and having our kids avoid measles, and sometimes die. death is gods plan no doubt
Damn scientsts and their lies and "science" just because they have worldwide consensus that mankind is the cause 90% probability. I'm not happy if they said 100%. or 150%. Percentages are beyond what we used in Trailer park high anyway
Science, . . well i'm not going to believe it
no, i'm going to believe Fox news, brought to me by those fine folks at BP, they are the only ones. BP wouldn't lie. Its that big money in carbon caps. . .that is fabricating it.
Based on what I'm hearing people say, I'm guessing that 20%-30% of the atmosphere is CO2. And probably about 50% to 75% of that is man made. So it's easy to see how humans can be causing climate change.
We would die if levels ever got that high, currently it is less than .05%, remember the 78% Nitrogen, 20% oxygen, remainder is various gases.
Is there "Climate change" ? That is without a doubt, how much of it is caused by human activity is the only thing to debate.
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Like that is a bad thing. Do you think climate is ever static? Would it have made you happier if the trend line was going down? Oh that's right, that would be man made drought for Texas..... There are decadal trends. Ever hear of the Dust Bowl? Thankfully it IS wetter in Texas now then it was in the past. Oddly alarmists such as Joe Romm have been touting a 
