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Great job. Now the students and university should really take a brace stand and refuse to accept any state funds until the flag is changed! Common brave university and students, take a stand that really matters and isn't merely symbolic.
This thread is about the Confederate flag in Mississippi and how a group of students decided they didn't want it representing their school any more. The Confederate flag is still revered by many in the South, but obviously not this younger generation. Which has exactly what to do with the North immediately following the Civil War?
Oh that's right, absolutely nothing.
I believe the point he/she was trying to make is people constantly refer to the south as racist, especially in regard to the Civil War. However, history is written by the victors and the north, back then and today, have a long history of racism as well. The reconstruction wasn't all roses and love. There were acts of retribution carried out by Union soldiers against the people of the south during and after the civil war. What each region experienced depended upon the troops stationed there and the local culture. Sure, the Confederate States ended about a hundred fifty years ago and people should stop waiving the confederate battle flag, but some northerners should also let go of the hatred and bigotry towards the south that dates back that same hundred fifty years.
I believe the point he/she was trying to make is people constantly refer to the south as racist, especially in regard to the Civil War. However, history is written by the victors and the north, back then and today, have a long history of racism as well. The reconstruction wasn't all roses and love. There were acts of retribution carried out by Union soldiers against the people of the south during and after the civil war. What each region experienced depended upon the troops stationed there and the local culture. Sure, the Confederate States ended about a hundred fifty years ago and people should stop waiving the confederate battle flag, but some northerners should also let go of the hatred and bigotry towards the south that dates back that same hundred fifty years.
Except the south was still being racist over a hundred years after the civil war ended.
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Just hoping that everyone realizes that the flag that Ole' Miss students (and faculty and staff, for that matter) voted against flying is the MS state flag which incorporates the Confederate Battle flag but is not that flag itself. It's likely (and this ain't just me talking, it's MS state legislators, including Rs.), that the issue of redesigning the MS state flag will come up for a referendum-style vote as soon as 2018. FWIW, there have been similar discussions/surveys/votes happening at other MS state schools.
So really, this decision should be seen within the larger context of a state-wide conversation among Mississipians about their flag. See the Clarion-Ledger and/or Mississippi Public Broadcasting for more.
Good for the students who spearheaded this campaign. This shows that even in the South, the younger generations have little tolerance for the bigotry still held by many of their elders.
I wonder what the youths are doing in New York to protest the rampant bigotry there.
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Agreed. That's kinda silly. Kids go to U of M knowing damn well what their history is and they certainly know that it's located in Mississippi.
I'm not defending their dumb flag, but if I found it THAT offensive, I'd just go to an out of state school.
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Very well said.
Really? So no one ever has a reason to even discuss change? Believe me, that is all people in my much-maligned recently-adopted state are doing--discussing. One may very well argue that its citizens are doing so on misguided grounds, that they are facing outside pressure for doing so, and that if they are doing so with good will that such change would only amount to window dressing. All of that may be true, but it is all arguable, and people should be free to discuss. Conversely, one could criticize people in MS for any number of other reasons regarding their flag and how they feel about it and why or why not they might want to change it using some kind of democratic means.
Given that we all (hopefully) agree that we live in a society in which we can discuss, agree, and disagree, why should we dismiss the discussion that is going on here out of hand? The students made their voices heard within a larger cultural conversation, and good for them. They are well within their rights to do so, and we'll see what happens beyond the tiny town of Oxford.
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