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Old 11-08-2015, 05:26 PM
 
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The death penalty is not a deterrent to crime, does that matter? It is very expensive to execute someone, the last in Alabama cost about $7million over some 20+ years, not including the cost of incarceration. For me, being locked up in a terrible prison would be far worse than killing me, but you have to decide if prisons are for deterrence and rehabilitation or it they're strictly to keep the bad people out of society.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There is every reason to believe that both of those statements are false.

A report released on April 18, 2012, by the prestigious "National Research Council of the National Academies" based on a review of more than three decades of research concluded that studies claiming a deterrent effect on murder rates from the death penalty are fundamentally flawed.

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Thanks, I really do not care for the death penalty much more than innocents murdered.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I'm torn on this. I think there is a place for the death penalty, but only for the most heinous of crimes. Timothy McVeigh for instance was rightly executed.

I can also see the other side in that its better to abolish it entirely than to have the chance that an innocent person gets executed. Plus, there is the issue of government power. In America today, the death penalty is only carried out for the most violent of crimes, but it wasn't always this way. As long as the death penalty stands, it could be used in ways that are unforeseen today.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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It seems like progressives want to abolish the death penalty. Why?

Democrats' divide on death penalty emerges as major point of difference | US news | The Guardian
Too many innocent people put to death (state murder) to satisfy blood lust. We are in the same company as Iran and North Korea. The civilized countries of the world have abandoned this cruel and unusual punishment.
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Because they need votes from pedophiles, criminals, murders etc.
Is this how you really feel. How sad I'm against the death penalty and not a progressive.
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I am not opposed to the death penalty but I am opposed to having people locked up for 30 years while they await execution. To me that in itself is cruel and unusual punishment. Execution should occur within 10 years of conviction. That in my mind is actually too long.
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:38 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I am not opposed to the death penalty but I am opposed to having people locked up for 30 years while they await execution. To me that in itself is cruel and unusual punishment. Execution should occur within 10 years of conviction. That in my mind is actually too long.
The delays are often caused by anti death penalty supporters defunding the appeals process so it takes exceptionally long to get through. Then they talk about how expensive the process is when they are the main driver of the higher costs. The appeals process should not cost more than the actual trial. The incarceration should not be more than 50% higher than a regular inmate.

We can painlessly put animals down, we can also painlessly put to death the most vial murderers in society.
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:58 PM
 
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Ask the entire industrial world
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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One of the largest, longest acting groups to argue against the death penalty has been the Catholic Church. They can hardly be described as "progressive".

I have to wonder how people became so myopic that they are only able to see things as left/right, liberal/conservative, (D)/(R).
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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It seems like progressives want to abolish the death penalty. Why?

Democrats' divide on death penalty emerges as major point of difference | US news | The Guardian
Some conservative Christians oppose it as well, it's all about them not wanting to hold anyone truly accountable for their criminal acts or sins.
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