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Old 02-23-2016, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Ehm - the prison opened in January 2002. It's a bit late for the right to claim "principles".
And still opened under Obama for 8 years compared to Bush and 6 years.
Even more late for the Dems to try to push this back on the Repubs.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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And still opened under Obama for 8 years compared to Bush and 6 years.
Even more late for the Dems to try to push this back on the Repubs.
Both political parties are responsible for it and, therefore, should take ownership of the dimming light of the beacon on the hill.


[flickering]
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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What's the matter double d? The almighty let his slip show????
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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What's the matter double d? The almighty let his slip show????
Something else. Who knew that Lady Justice was into whips and chains?


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Old 02-23-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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1) The terrorists there have been executed long ago. Or set free by taking them 100 miles off shore, dumping them overboard and allowing them to swim home.

2) Gitmo serves a purpose even without the current crop of ragheads stored there.

3) Obama should be denied the opportunity to close it on political principle alone.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Both political parties are responsible for it and, therefore, should take ownership of the dimming light of the beacon on the hill.


[flickering]
Yup and this just drives that point home a little more.

D's an R's...two sides of the SAME DIRTY COIN. Doesn't matter which side you pick because you'll get the same result.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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1) The terrorists there have been executed long ago. Or set free by taking them 100 miles off shore, dumping them overboard and allowing them to swim home.

2) Gitmo serves a purpose even without the current crop of ragheads stored there.

3) Obama should be denied the opportunity to close it on political principle alone.
You mean dog and pony principles. After all, the existence of prisoners at Gitmo for this long without trial illustrates the compromise of principles.


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Old 02-23-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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And still opened under Obama for 8 years compared to Bush and 6 years.
Even more late for the Dems to try to push this back on the Repubs.
It's almost as if it's easier to make a mess than to clean it up.

Be that as it may, Obama issued an EO to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility on January 22nd, 2009 - and Congress (both sides) surrendered to their own and their constituents' fear, because terrorists have superpowers and would terrorize their way out of Supermax facilities or something. So they denied any funding to transfer the detainees and set the obstructive pattern.

Surprise, surprise: The problem didn't get any smaller just because it was ignored.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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After all, the existence of prisoners at Gitmo for this long without trial illustrates the compromise of principles.

[the high ground we're on is a cliff]
Which is why they should have been shot after any useful information was extracted. With no mention in the press or elsewhere about doing it. The sharks would have made quick work of the remains as they're not picky about eating even Muslim carcass.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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What's the matter double d? The almighty let his slip show????
First of all, I've never supported any president's policy of detaining people without charge.

Are you willing to go that far?

I'm not on record as supporting Obama on this issue.

Secondly, I'm for closing Guantanamo...the whole base, and giving it back to its rightful owners: the Cuban people.

Are you willing to go that far, or are you a fan of American imperialism?

I'm for sending these detainees home to their families immediately.

Are you willing to go that far, or are you gonna cop out and give no opinion on the matter (like you've done so far in an effort to ridicule my position)...huh?

"The Almighty?" I know it's hard for you to believe, but I'm not on record as one of your maligned "Obamabots." As I've said before and I'll reiterate right now, if you put up McCain or Romney in an election against Obama, I've got NO CHOICE but to vote for Obama.

And I don't regret that vote one bit.
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