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Old 11-19-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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They beheaded Americans, doesn't that and their threatening future attacks count?
I suppose if you are going to argue that threatening future attacks is justification that they are perfectly justified in what they are doing.

It's so sad that people get upset at other countries for doing the very thing their country has done.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If they are all gun ho about "starting a war" then we just wait for an attack to happen on US soil.

This is France's war, not ours. If France goes to war we will go as allies.
But this one is not our war unless we have a Black Swan here

Remember WWII. We didn't enter until Pearl Harbor got bombed.
And there's plenty of documented facts that indicate FDR let that happen so he could legitimately declare war.
Confidential memos have been declassified regarding that.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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I suppose if you are going to argue that threatening future attacks is justification that they are perfectly justified in what they are doing.

It's so sad that people get upset at other countries for doing the very thing their country has done.

Well, I can't argue that, but ISIS is not a country, they are just a bunch of subhuman barbarians no different than serial killers.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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So basically he is asking congress to put their money where their mouth are. Cool, let's see if congress follow through.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:44 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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If they are all gun ho about "starting a war" then we just wait for an attack to happen on US soil.

This is France's war, not ours. If France goes to war we will go as allies.
But this one is not our war unless we have a Black Swan here

Remember WWII. We didn't enter until Pearl Harbor got bombed.
And there's plenty of documented facts that indicate FDR let that happen so he could legitimately declare war.
Confidential memos have been declassified regarding that.
Ok, I can agree with that.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Well, I can't argue that, but ISIS is not a country, they are just a bunch of subhuman barbarians no different than serial killers.
They are doing nothing that we would not do. They do not have a huge military complex to retaliate with so they make do with what they do have.

Dead is dead. You are no less dead when a bomb drops on your house at dinner time than getting your head cut off. They both are done for the same purpose.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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They are doing nothing that we would not do. They do not have a huge military complex to retaliate with so they make do with what they do have.

Dead is dead. You are no less dead when a bomb drops on your house at dinner time than getting your head cut off. They both are done for the same purpose.
Absolutely. Anyone who thinks we are the good guys here either hasn't been paying attention or has immersed themselves so deeply in flag waving, chest thumping patriotism that they refuse to even consider that we have created a lot of the problems we face today ourselves.

We created ISIS. Our chickens are coming home to roost.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Absolutely. Anyone who thinks we are the good guys here either hasn't been paying attention or has immersed themselves so deeply in flag waving, chest thumping patriotism that they refuse to even consider that we have created a lot of the problems we face today ourselves.

We created ISIS. Our chickens are coming home to roost.
I do agree totally with this, one reason I hate American government! We are also no ally worth having, two-faced/back-stabbing/butter both sides of the bread, totally untrustworthy.

However, I also do not want Obama's scumbag Radical Muslim co-horts in our country.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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Not under this administration?!!!

ISIS video shows beheading of Steven Sotloff - CNN.com

www.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/meast/isis-american-journalist-sotloff
Sep 09, 2014 · ISIS beheaded journalist James ... month by ISIS made during the videotaped beheading of American journalist James ... of the ISIS beheading ...
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Nov 16, 2014 · Video embedded · The Islamic State terror group has claimed to have beheaded American hostage Peter Kassig, ... isis New ISIS video shows beheading of American …

I am saying that under this administration there is no way the USA would declare war against ISIS, regardless of the multiple beheadings of Americans
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:23 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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I am saying that under this administration there is no way the USA would declare war against ISIS.

Oh I misunderstood, and I believe you are right.
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