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Old 12-04-2015, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Hmmm, "Governments instituted to secure rights of the people..."
Nope.
"Governments instituted to deny rights to the people."
YUP. That's the one.
[] Disarm - check
[] Criminalize politically incorrect thought - check
[] Ignore constitution - check
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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Muslim terrorists murder people in Paris, and more Muslims murder Americans, and the worry is centered around non Muslims?
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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well, that is why we shouldn't allow people who hate us to come here.
Bring troops home, leave the hell hole alone, have them kill each other, we have enough criminals in our country, we don't need to import more.
That's fine as long as we return the favor (as you do note)
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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I sincerely hope the western world can learn something from Japan today.

ISLAMIC TERRORISM: WHY THERE IS NONE IN JAPAN

Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%.

there was not a single, even minor, riot, disturbance or protest, no matter how many citizens of this country support cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in some Danish newspaper or in a French magazine.

The name of this lucky country is Japan.

Officially, immigration to Japan is not closed to Muslims. But the number of the immigration permits given to the applicants from Islamic countries is very low. Obtaining a working visa is not easy for adepts of Islam, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. As a result, Japan is “a country without Muslimsâ€.


Islamic Terrorism: Why There Is None in Japan

I understand that many Muslim americans are also American citizens. I say treat them with human decency and they should enjoy the same human and civil rights. But stop importing more.
Japan is also not constantly bombing them.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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man, easy.

haha. In all seriousness though, suicide bomber is not the reason why internment camp was justified. I would argue that internment camp was a desperate solution in a desperate situation. I won't judge history using perfect hindsight.

I still say internment camp is not justified, what I think a fair solution is certain level of racial profiling. People control IS important.

I think not allowing japanese or german immigrants during ww2 is a very smart move. No student visa, no tourist visa.
You are right (again)
However you misconstrued my point. As I noted: hindsight is 20-20, but you can't ignore that we didn't suffer suicide bombings during the internment period. This was more an unintended benefit when you consider that we had no experience with such things as the Kamikaze mindset.

The reality of 9/11 is that it was a successful Kamikaze attack.

My point was about the similarity, rather than pointing to the causation. What would the politicians and military minds of the era feel about us trying to open the floodgates to people who will most assuredly contain a percentage of the very enemies they are trying to escape?

The sad irony is that one of the women in San Bernardino escaped Iran to be free and safe from the extremism... only to become a victim of it here.

People around us are losing their minds as they attempt to twist current events to fit their ideologies, rather than adjusting their ideologies to fit current events. Unfortunately, many of them hold the power to "control" us.

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Hmmm, "Governments instituted to secure rights of the people..."
Nope.
"Governments instituted to deny rights to the people."
YUP. That's the one.
[] Disarm - check
[] Criminalize politically incorrect thought - check
[] Ignore constitution - check
Again: People around us are losing their minds as they attempt to twist current events to fit their ideologies, rather than adjusting their ideologies to fit current events. Unfortunately, many of them hold the power to "control" us.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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And this is why Republicans, more specifically, Donald Trump, will retake the White House in 2016.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You are right (again)
However you misconstrued my point. As I noted: hindsight is 20-20, but you can't ignore that we didn't suffer suicide bombings during the internment period. This was more an unintended benefit when you consider that we had no experience with such things as the Kamikaze mindset.

The reality of 9/11 is that it was a successful Kamikaze attack.

My point was about the similarity, rather than pointing to the causation. What would the politicians and military minds of the era feel about us trying to open the floodgates to people who will most assuredly contain a percentage of the very enemies they are trying to escape?

The sad irony is that one of the women in San Bernardino escaped Iran to be free and safe from the extremism... only to become a victim of it here.

People around us are losing their minds as they attempt to twist current events to fit their ideologies, rather than adjusting their ideologies to fit current events. Unfortunately, many of them hold the power to "control" us.
agreed agreed.

I also want to note that gun control is just stupid. People control is more effective. (obviously, not politically correct for me to say)
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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Islam and Muslims are rewarded once again for terrorism, by assigning them the victim status.

Message from the Left: Terrorism pays!
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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agreed agreed.

I also want to note that gun control is just stupid. People control is more effective. (obviously, not politically correct for me to say)
At this point I believe to these people it's politically correct to be entirely wrong.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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inciting violence against any innocent people should be prosecuted.

the problem is with the word innocent.

there are actual people out there who believe in exacting revenge on strangers for what others have done is legitimate.
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