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Old 12-19-2015, 12:32 AM
 
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No, you do not comprehend risks. The reason for your inconvenience is because anyone of average intelligence can easily foresee the BIG problems headed our way as drones become less expensive, more common, and technology increases. It's not much of an issue right now, but in 5-10 years really stupid people will have access to machines that will have the ability to cause unbelievable chaos.
Actually in 5-10 years the types of drones used will be mind boggling. Seriously we're getting some REALLY good 3D printing technology coming up, and theres nothing that will stop someone from printing a rocket powered drone in their office.

And it wont be registered, and could easily be converted to be a missile.

So yeah....this FAA stuff is pretty meaningless within a few years. As many will point out....registering doesnt stop criminal activity. So if you're worried about dumb people in 5 years having drones, worry FAR more about smart people.
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:54 AM
 
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As many will point out....registering doesnt stop criminal activity.
That's really a non-argument that could be said for all laws, and yet we still have them. By making the penalties high enough, most folks won't risk it. No, it won't stop a terrorist, but it'll keep most citizens from doing stupid stuff. It's like locks on doors, they keep honest people honest.
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Old 12-19-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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The normal. Something new. Doesn't affect the majority of people. Control it. Regulate it. More government.

What's the penalty for failure to register?
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Old 12-19-2015, 05:50 AM
 
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Love the " we need laws on this quick" response.

I saw the video and thought cool. Nice little project that some geek worked on.

Guess everyone else saw arrrggggggggg terrorists.
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Old 12-19-2015, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually in 5-10 years the types of drones used will be mind boggling. Seriously we're getting some REALLY good 3D printing technology coming up, and theres nothing that will stop someone from printing a rocket powered drone in their office.

And it wont be registered, and could easily be converted to be a missile.

So yeah....this FAA stuff is pretty meaningless within a few years. As many will point out....registering doesnt stop criminal activity. So if you're worried about dumb people in 5 years having drones, worry FAR more about smart people.
Well when the time comes it will be addressed, in the meantime I don't want some fool that bought a drone on Amazon in 5 minutes taking out an aircraft with a pilot who has 20 years experience. Turtles and birds are an unavoidable fact of life, we don't need to create more problems.


There have been a few hundred incidents nation wide, just a matter of time, find a new toy


Airliners come within 100 feet of drone over New York - CNN.com
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:14 AM
 
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I haven't read any of the replies but the solution here is easy. Everyone simply needs to ignore the regulations to do this. If everyone would ignore them there is nothing the government could do.

Yep, a few might have to pay a fine but it's a small cost to get rid of stupid government intrusions. I do photography in my spare time........I'll probably get one with a camera before long. Will I register it? No, but I'll have the common sense to keep it out of areas it might be a problem also.
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:16 AM
 
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Actually in 5-10 years the types of drones used will be mind boggling. Seriously we're getting some REALLY good 3D printing technology coming up, and theres nothing that will stop someone from printing a rocket powered drone in their office.

And it wont be registered, and could easily be converted to be a missile.

So yeah....this FAA stuff is pretty meaningless within a few years. As many will point out....registering doesnt stop criminal activity. So if you're worried about dumb people in 5 years having drones, worry FAR more about smart people.
One has to note that this same argument can be used for guns also.
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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No, you do not comprehend risks. The reason for your inconvenience is because anyone of average intelligence can easily foresee the BIG problems headed our way as drones become less expensive, more common, and technology increases. It's not much of an issue right now, but in 5-10 years really stupid people will have access to machines that will have the ability to cause unbelievable chaos.
"As many as one million drones could be sold during this year’s holiday season, FAA official Rich Swayze has told ATW Online. Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) have proven to be dangerous in the past — pilots have reported drones flying too close to their aircrafts, and some have even impeded firefighting efforts. Officials are understandably concerned about what a million drone sales will mean for the safety of both their operators and the public, and they want to inform people about the risks."


Drones: Government Expects 1 Million To Be Sold This Holiday Season - Fortune
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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Perhaps you missed this part:
"Quote: Originally Posted by greywar
...Its ALREADY illegal to fly within 5 miles, or above 400 feet of an airport. ..."

Drugs are illegal, it is illegal for people who become criminals to own guns, speeding is illegal, you get the point, I hope.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I haven't read any of the replies but the solution here is easy. Everyone simply needs to ignore the regulations to do this. If everyone would ignore them there is nothing the government could do.

Yep, a few might have to pay a fine but it's a small cost to get rid of stupid government intrusions. I do photography in my spare time........I'll probably get one with a camera before long. Will I register it? No, but I'll have the common sense to keep it out of areas it might be a problem also.

Well we may as well do away with regulations regarding private aircraft, let them fly where ever they choose.


Relying on peoples common sense has never worked out very well in many areas, if you want to rely on a drone operators common sense when it comes near a commercial aircraft you are flying on be my guess. I don't have any optimism that all these operators are intelligent and safety conscious.
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