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View Poll Results: Saturday Night
Yes, and will probably vote in the Democratic primary 28 23.14%
Yes, but only for entertainment 17 14.05%
No, but I will DVR 3 2.48%
No, nothing any of them say is worth my time. 73 60.33%
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:50 PM
 
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As someone who supports a non-interventionist foreign policy, I feel like Ms. Clinton exposed herself as the only neocon on the stage. If you watched the republican debate, you will have noticed she's further to the right on foreign policy than Mr. Paul, Mr. Trump and Mr. Carson. In this debate, I enjoyed how both her opponents mentioned the CIA coup in Iran, 1954 as a historical counter point to her dangerous neocon proclivities. Ron Paul used to do that.
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:53 PM
 
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I think Clinton is closer to the Bushes than to the democrats. She favors American aggression.
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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What I don't get is why people fear Bernie and label him as a socialist. His idea's share similarities to FDR if around this time.

I don't fear him, its just his policies will never pass congress and the courts......you think the courts will let a President CONFISCATE wealth to pay for his socialist policies which doesn't add up?


and when you ask him how is going to pay for it, his answers are all the same, THE BILLIONAIRES!........this class warfare is old.
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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Same with Trump, except he has less....

Nah it's different Bernie has 15 individual pre written answers to fall on. Trump has 15 phrases that somehow find themselves in every answer.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:09 PM
 
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There would be no billionaires without the middle class. The middle class is shrinking though while the billionaires get richer because of us.

so is not the fault of the federal government making bad trade policies for decades and making a complex tax code system...NOOOOOO!....its all the billionaires fault.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:13 PM
 
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so should I go to the APPLE corporation or MICROSOFT and demand that the government confiscate their wealth because its mine?


how do you know billionaires and millionaires don't work? ........should the government confiscate the NFL earning because everybody is making too much money?


you are in the wrong country with that class warfare mentality.

Well, as long as you're happy supporting rich people because that's what the middle class and poor are doing. How do you think productivity of a company is generated? Simply by the actions of a few CEOs at the top? No, it is the actions and work of millions of workers who are under-compensated for their labor so that a tiny minority can make unfathomable fortunes. And yes I do believe NFL players should make less and teachers for example should make more. Who contributes more to society? Whose work is more essential and important? Who do we reward?
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:14 PM
 
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so is not the fault of the federal government making bad trade policies for decades and making a complex tax code system...NOOOOOO!....its all the billionaires fault.
I never said it was a billionaires fault. I said the middle class made them billionaires. Without us they would be just like us......middle class.... wouldn't they lol
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:14 PM
 
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Part of what Bernie Sanders said was the fact that the billionaires, insurance companies, Wall Street, etc. are in control of the country by bribing the congress with money.

Why do you think we have such a pathetic healthcare system? It's for the insurance companies and pharmaceuticals.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:20 PM
 
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I never said it was a billionaires fault. I said the middle class made them billionaires. Without us they would be just like us......middle class.... wouldn't they lol

I don't know about that.....I say the market and demand made them billionaires.

The owner of Facebook is a billionaire because he invented a product that the consumer wants and is high in demand, so DID Steve Jobs and Bill Gates......I can give you many other examples...if you want to slice the consumers into little groups go ahead.


there is no evidence that they stole the wealth from the MIDDLE CLASS to achieved what they have done....this is leftist class warfare.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:24 PM
 
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Well, as long as you're happy supporting rich people because that's what the middle class and poor are doing. How do you think productivity of a company is generated? Simply by the actions of a few CEOs at the top? No, it is the actions and work of millions of workers who are under-compensated for their labor so that a tiny minority can make unfathomable fortunes. And yes I do believe NFL players should make less and teachers for example should make more. Who contributes more to society? Whose work is more essential and important? Who do we reward?


If you don't want to support millionaires and billionaires then don't watch professional sports, Hollywood movies, don't use the computer, don't use the net , dont use a cell phone, hell, don't buy anything that is own by a millionaires or billionaires.....at least put your money where your mouth is if you are going to play the Bernie Sanders class warfare rhetoric.


who decides who gets paid what? you? a few elites in government?.....let the market and demand decide who gets paid what.
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