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Old 12-15-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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BAM! Everyone gets mad as **** at each other. For some reason, the US sits this one out (non stop football on TV is distracting them) and everyone decides not to nuke each other into oblivion

One one side, we have non-US NATO countries, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Israel


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China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Kazakhstan, Serbia, Belarus, Syria, Iraq, and any other Russian/Chinese/Iranian satellite state out there


What happens and who wins???
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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Default World War 3 without the US. What happens?

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What happens and who wins???
Just FYI...

This forum isn't about world of warcraft, call of duty or other teenage simwars.

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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who wins???
Whoever isn't involved in that conflict.
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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More like the US is involved with our allies sitting out eg see Syria
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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What happens and who wins???
What happens: destruction and then reconstruction.

Winners: At first, those who manufacture and sell the machines, tools, and supplies for war, and then, those who manufacture and sell the machines, tools, and supplies of peace.

[we win]
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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BAM! Everyone gets mad as **** at each other. For some reason, the US sits this one out (non stop football on TV is distracting them) and everyone decides not to nuke each other into oblivion

One one side, we have non-US NATO countries, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Israel


vs

China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Kazakhstan, Serbia, Belarus, Syria, Iraq, and any other Russian/Chinese/Iranian satellite state out there


What happens and who wins???
We have Security Treaties with both Japan and South Korea - they are attacked, we defend.
What do we do about those? I guess the great Obama could say that "I didn't know" - it seems to work for him on all the other things he "didn't know". Obama can read about the war in the news media, as usual.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:18 PM
 
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If as you say those nations.only Israel has much of a military and can project power worldwide. But I doubt any of them would allow it to go too far without using nukes especially Israel who has always had its back to the wall.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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BAM! Everyone gets mad as **** at each other. For some reason, the US sits this one out (non stop football on TV is distracting them) and everyone decides not to nuke each other into oblivion

One one side, we have non-US NATO countries, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Israel


vs

China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Kazakhstan, Serbia, Belarus, Syria, Iraq, and any other Russian/Chinese/Iranian satellite state out there


What happens and who wins???
The big players would be China and India. No they don't like each other. They both have roughly equal population too. Everything you ever heard about how terrifying it would be to go to war with China is just as true about India. Remember, when Nixon forged an alliance with China, the USSR and India became allies to counter the threat. China helped Pakistan develop nukes too. China and India are used to lining up on opposite sides to each other.

With the USA out of the picture, WW3 would still involve mutually assured destruction, so it probably never happens anyways. But ignoring that trivial little detail, I think things would line up like this:

China, North Korea, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran, Iraq, the rest of the Muslim Middle East and North Africa.

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India, Russia and the rest of the former USSR, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Myanmar, the Philippines,
Australia, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Israel.

That's a very close fight. I think India's side has the edge in weapons tech and neither side has much of a numerical advantage, so eventually India and its allies win that.

The European Union would be a definitive tie-breaker. If either side can bring them into their alliance, they win. Period. But the EU might just choose to stay out of it anyways. And no idea which way nations in Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa would go.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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Remember, when Nixon forged an alliance with China, the USSR and India became allies to counter the threat.
Sorta off topic, but this was one of the oddities of history. There's a lot of realpolitik involved when the leading country of the Free World picks China and hence Pakistan over the the world's largest democracy. I don't think India got too bad of a deal out of though; the Soviets were actually decent allies with them. I believe India and Russia still work on weapons projects together to this day.

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