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Why is it so important to people to have them identified as terrorists? Because they are viewed as right wing?
If it makes people feel good to call them that big deal but don't try to equate them with real terrorists like ISIS. Mass murders, beheading, etc. as opposed to taking over an empty building.
"I began to understand how the Lord felt about the Hammonds," Bundy says in the video. "I began to understand how the Lord felt about Harney County and about this country. And I clearly understood that the Lord was not pleased with what was happening to the Hammonds…. If we allowed the Hammonds to continue to be punished, there would be accountability."
In another video, also posted Dec. 31, militia member John Ritzheimer bids farewell to his family as he prepares to drive to Oregon, where he says he is "100 percent willing to lay my life down in order to fight tyranny."
1. Using religion as a reason for their actions? Check.
2. Fighting against the U.S. Government? Check.
3. Willing to kill for what THEY believe? Check.
4. Armed to the teeth? Check.
1. Using religion as a reason for their actions? Check.
2. Fighting against the U.S. Government? Check.
3. Willing to kill for what THEY believe? Check.
4. Armed to the teeth? Check.
Reads like radical Christian terrorism to me.
Actually, the Bundys aside, a significant number of the militia members are secular. The motivating factor to these stand offs is not religion, but socio political views.
Likewise, though McVeigh sympathized with a religous group, he himself was an atheist who adhered to "natural law and science".
"I began to understand how the Lord felt about the Hammonds," Bundy says in the video. "I began to understand how the Lord felt about Harney County and about this country. And I clearly understood that the Lord was not pleased with what was happening to the Hammonds…. If we allowed the Hammonds to continue to be punished, there would be accountability."
In another video, also posted Dec. 31, militia member John Ritzheimer bids farewell to his family as he prepares to drive to Oregon, where he says he is "100 percent willing to lay my life down in order to fight tyranny."
1. Using religion as a reason for their actions? Check.
2. Fighting against the U.S. Government? Check.
3. Willing to kill for what THEY believe? Check.
4. Armed to the teeth? Check.
Reads like radical Christian terrorism to me.
As I said if it makes you feel good to refer to it as terrorism fine. I don't see anyone being terrorized though.
i just don't think it can be equated with ISIS or other groups that have killed many innocents.
As I said if it makes you feel good to refer to it as terrorism fine. I don't see anyone being terrorized though.
i just don't think it can be equated with ISIS or other groups that have killed many innocents.
If you don't see anyone being terrorized then you need your vision checked. The local school district has been shut down for the entire week. It wouldn't take a lot of critical thinking skills to draw a correlation between the increased presence of heavily armed men from out of town to closing the local schools...
Actually, the Bundys aside, a significant number of the militia members are secular. The motivating factor to these stand offs is not religion, but socio political views.
It appears that the majority or backbone of the Malheur Malcontents who profess a faith are Mormon. They have interlaced Christian scripture throughout their siren call for armed revolt.
In all fairness, the Mormon church has been assertively proactive in 'all but' excommunicating the participants in the Malheur armed takeover. The below quoted statements from Mormon elders are strongly nuanced so as to disavow scriptural basis for their actions and carefully 'all but' sever their fellowship (still leaving excommunication as part of the carrot/stick equation):
Some may quite reasonably say that their church should have disfellowshipped and shunned them immediately when they undertook armed occupation of a federal building. Others may see this as a measured response to lure them to a peaceful conclusion. There is merit to both sides. I am far, far, from Mormon, but I do respect their early and hard condemnation of the armed takeover.
If you don't see anyone being terrorized then you need your vision checked. The local school district has been shut down for the entire week. It wouldn't take a lot of critical thinking skills to draw a correlation between the increased presence of heavily armed men from out of town to closing the local schools...
We have a different threshold for what is called being terrorized. I doubt if people in the area feel any terror.
Anger, annoyance, etc. probably.
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