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Old 01-07-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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We should just elect the special interests directly.
Now THAT is an idea. They could have logos put on their suits, like NASCAR racers have their suits covered in racing logos - identifying which special interest they represent. Let's just cut to the chase.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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Ron Paul did start a revolution, didn't he.

No amount of Establishment backing and big money, is helping this time around.



As congress goes, so does the candidates to run for the highest office.
Looks like Conservatives, have had enough of the Establishment taking over the show. Bush, McCain, Romney, progressive socialist types, need not apply this time around.
Exactly WHO has "taken over the show"?
Obama and the Far Leftists. You should thank Ron Paul, Mark Levin and give yourself a nice Pat on the Back. What could possibly be worse than the last 7 years of "circumvent" the Congress and refuse to follow the laws? What could possibly be worse than the Attack on Benghazi that we still know nothing about, the IRS Targeting of the Left's perceived "enemies", the Fast & Furious gun running to Narco Gangs in Mexico, the de-facto Amnesty of Team Obama, all the secret private email accounts running our Government, Obamacare debacle, our Foreign Policy disasters under TeamObama and ignoring even Court orders by this Lawless Administration.

And yet ..... all the yammering about "the hated GOP establishment" while the Leftists are laughing their heads off. You bet Ron Paul started all this, but he had a lot of help from those that can't see the big picture .... which is the Reality we have been living in for 7 long, horrible years.

All those "anti GOP" boycotts have certainly shown the Leftists you mean business.
Take a bow and congratulate yourself. Drives me nuts to read this stuff. It will give us Hillary Clinton who will Double-Down on everything The Obama began.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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Andrew Jackson's victory at New Orleans is credited with helping to destroy the Federalist party.

The controversy over the presidential election of 1824 destroyed the Democratic-Republican party.

Nativism, prohibition, and slavery destroyed the Whig party in the 1850's.

Maybe the Republican party is also past it's 'sell-by' date.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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So as someone that supported past Republicans like Reagan and Bush sr should I vote for Hillary?
Hillary has killed a lot of people with her moves in Libia and exposing all her email.
Her husband I hear is also about to have tens of new women coming out to the press about his various attacks on women. So much in common with Crosby.

Sanders is a basic Communist. Already said he would attack business and all that and rule through giant government. SURPRISE.

I think Cruz is not ready yet, but Trump who is losing 300 million a year being in politics could probably do us the most good.
He will be the probable winner and will maybe even take New York if he isn't assassinated first.
His election stops influence on the left, right, activists, companies and unions. All those who gain power, money and influence through the Left or Right side of government despise the change a Trump would bring.

They would have no more sweet heart deals. No more insider information like before.
Going to be a withdrawl for the old guard.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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Ron Paul did start a revolution, didn't he.

No amount of Establishment backing and big money, is helping this time around.



As congress goes, so does the candidates to run for the highest office.
Looks like Conservatives, have had enough of the Establishment taking over the show. Bush, McCain, Romney, progressive socialist types, need not apply this time around.
Considering the leading establishment candidate is at about 3%, yeah, they are feeling the change in the political winds.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Considering the leading establishment candidate is at about 3%, yeah, they are feeling the change in the political winds.
About the same as Ron Paul's son.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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And the Republicans don't care about the handouts. Just their rich buddies. There's so little difference between the parties now, it's ridiculous. We should just elect the special interests directly.
That's a huge problem with big government and why the feds should have their role greatly reduced.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Hillary has killed a lot of people with her moves in Libia and exposing all her email.
Her husband I hear is also about to have tens of new women coming out to the press about his various attacks on women. So much in common with Crosby.

Sanders is a basic Communist. Already said he would attack business and all that and rule through giant government. SURPRISE.

I think Cruz is not ready yet, but Trump who is losing 300 million a year being in politics could probably do us the most good.
He will be the probable winner and will maybe even take New York if he isn't assassinated first.
His election stops influence on the left, right, activists, companies and unions. All those who gain power, money and influence through the Left or Right side of government despise the change a Trump would bring.

They would have no more sweet heart deals. No more insider information like before.
Going to be a withdrawl for the old guard.
It's something that Trump can say whatever he wants, doesn't care who he offends, and is doing so well in the polls. He's the anti-politician. People are like, yes, finally. Whether he's the right man, I don't know. What I do know is people find him refreshing.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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Andrew Jackson's victory at New Orleans is credited with helping to destroy the Federalist party.

The controversy over the presidential election of 1824 destroyed the Democratic-Republican party.

Nativism, prohibition, and slavery destroyed the Whig party in the 1850's.

Maybe the Republican party is also past it's 'sell-by' date.
Seems for many Republicans or Democrats, there "sell by" date is within the first few months after being elected; that's when most all of them sellout.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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If you want a war hawk in the WH, and that is your only issue, then yes, she would probably be your best choice.
What about Trump? He seems pretty keen to start some wars.
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