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Who told them to leave or die? Not the government.
Threats of violence? Not from the government.
If anything the month long occupation has shown the patience of the government in seeking a non-confrontational end.
If the government had wanted to use force the whole thing would have been over on January 3rd.
...the Constitution does not authorize permanent land-grabs by the federal government.
People have been binding their own hands with the chains labeled freedom for over 100 years now. They don't see where that settled then effects future prospect to liberty. Same as today, the legal maneuvers of the federal government granted by congress sealed by the Presidents signature, will effect present day liberty 100 years from now.
The Constitution gives to the people the freedom to choose the 'type' of government they wish to have govern them. 250 years later ... how are we doing? Restrictions placed on farmers and ranchers to produce will place restrictions on our food sources that will lead to the government becoming the only source of sustenance. Just saying ... 20/20 does not have to come from hindsight. Then again, maybe it does.
If the government had wanted to use force the whole thing would have been over on January 3rd.
They were all boxed in with no where to go. They could be waited out with the same outcome as with the use of force. Waiting them out saved face for the government, but it doesn't make the governmental laws right.
Unfortunately, commentators on neither side have done a particularly good job of uncovering the original meaning of the Property Clause.
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Considered from the vantage point of original meaning, both the conservative and liberal interpretations of the "other Property" portion of the Property Clause are partly correct.
They were all boxed in with no where to go. They could be waited out with the same outcome as with the use of force. Waiting them out saved face for the government, but it doesn't make the governmental laws right.
The government never intended to use violence until the were forced into it. Finicum fought the Law, and the Law won. That will forever be his epitaph.
The cooler heads in the two vehicles are still alive because they knew what would happen if they went for their guns. If you want to change the laws, fine. Many do. There are a lot of them I would change. But that is done by legal maneuvers in the courts and through the voting booth, not by armed thugs hijacking a government building and issuing demands. We are a nation of laws, designed to protect all of us. You can't just pick and choose the ones you want to obey, as the Birdhouse Boys found out.
The government never intended to use violence until the were forced into it. Finicum fought the Law, and the Law won. That will forever be his epitaph.
The cooler heads in the two vehicles are still alive because they knew what would happen if they went for their guns. If you want to change the laws, fine. Many do. There are a lot of them I would change. But that is done by legal maneuvers in the courts and through the voting booth, not by armed thugs hijacking a government building and issuing demands. We are a nation of laws, designed to protect all of us. You can't just pick and choose the ones you want to obey, as the Birdhouse Boys found out.
The Birdhouse Boys, set a fire on their land, that got away from them and by accident burned some federal land, which by 'law' will land them in jail for 5 years. For whatever reason, no one seems to have a problem with this? Or is the part where some one comes along to tell me, I don't understand the situation, between the government and the ranchers.
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Or is the part where some one comes along to tell me, I don't understand the situation, between the government and the ranchers.