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Old 02-05-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: London
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If there are more births now since Texas defunded PP, then so far, as of this moment, it only prevented late term abortions (6 months or more into the pregnancy).

However, the contraception use rate falling is a natural consequence, and there will likely be a lot more unwanted babies being born in the coming months.

I'm not a fan of late term abortions at all, but this is just the beginning.
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Old 02-05-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: London
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Well I read the report.

Seems the decline was in the $60 contraception shot that lasts 3 months.
It's $60 at the doctor but $0 at planned parenthood.

If you can't get it for free then do get it ?
The people who rely on free contraceptives from PP are the people who are least able to afford to have children. So if they don't get it, our tax dollars may very well end up supporting their kids for 18 years.
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Old 02-05-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The people who rely on free contraceptives from PP are the people who are least able to afford to have children. So if they don't get it, our tax dollars may very well end up supporting their kids for 18 years.
51% of all babies born in the US are paid for by medicaid.
Your tax dollars support a lot of poor kids in the US.
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The people who rely on free contraceptives from PP are the people who are least able to afford to have children. So if they don't get it, our tax dollars may very well end up supporting their kids for 18 years.
Contraceptives are free under Obamacare and have been since 2013.
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Contraceptives are free under Obamacare and have been since 2013.
Which kinda shoots all to hell the notion that a lack of PP clinics somehow caused a decrease in Contraception. The source article felt awfully biased anyways.
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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How many more illegals came to Texas that wouldn't qualify for medicaid and had babies ?
Illegals WANT babies, not abortions or contraceptive.
Is your point that unwed women in Texas should compete with them?
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Contraceptives are free under Obamacare and have been since 2013.
Many of these low income people are not covered by Obama Care and there are many forms of contraception. They provide more than just contraception, education and counseling are just as important.


So the point remains that many people use these facilities and most don't even perform abortion so how does it make even remote sense to close down a medical facility that provides a critical service and works juts fine.
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The funding only got cut in October 2015. How is it possible that by January medicaid births are up due to this defunding?

It's not because of PP defunding.

It's because illegals coming into Texas jumped 500% from Oct to Jan.
That's your real answer.

You won't know until at least August 2016 if the cuts to PP cause more births.
Pregnancy takes 9 months you know.
You may want to do some research about those dates.

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Texas excluded them from a state-funded replacement program, effective January 1, 2013.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1511902
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Pray tell explain this....

The cuts happened in October 2015.
These women were pregnant BEFORE the cuts if they are having babies by January.

Medicaid births up 27% is due to the surge in illegals, not cuts that happened 3 months ago.

Big Bend up over 500%
Del Rio up 250%
El Paso up over 500%
Rio Grande up over 140%

I posted the CBP report..and that's just October 2015 thru January 2016.
You are so wrong WRONG WRONG on suggesting such a ridiculously easy timeline of just when Planned Parenthood Clinics were closing due to legislations, cutback by Gov. Perry back in 2011 ...
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pl...-johnsons-form

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In a press release, Planned Parenthood blamed the closures on funding cuts that Republican lawmakers passed in 2011. Those funding cuts have already led to the closure of numerous Planned Parenthood clinics across the state.
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“The combined impact of years of budget cuts to women’s health care services and the dismantling of the successful Women’s Health Program will take affordable, preventive health care options away from women in Bryan, Lufkin and Huntsville — just as these policies have taken health care away from an estimated 130,000 others — when Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast is forced to close these family planning health centers at the end of August," Linton added.
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Contraceptives are free under Obamacare and have been since 2013.
NOPE~~ Medicaid cutbacks/ closure of clinics of PP made it impossible to even get access to Birth Controls. BTW~~ These medicaid patients cannot even afford ACA Policies thru "free Market" due to Texas refusing to setup State sites to offer it..??? Nothings free, though some truly have been brainwashed to believe such rhetoric prolific on social media and out of the mouths of pundits!!

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You may want to do some research about those dates.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1511902
Yep~~ I can't believe even Texan's have absolutely just what goes on within their own State boarders..but only listen to extreme advocates screaming mis-information ..and lazy folks don't bother to fact check the things they hear by those they ONLY listen to!!

Just thought I would add another link which exposes the ignorant that have refused to get it..The article below was March of 2013..almost a full 2 YEARS ago!!!


Charts: This Is What Happens When You Defund Planned Parenthood | Mother Jones

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In the past two years, Texas legislators slashed funds for family planning and passed up $30 million a year in federal Medicaid money, largely to squeeze Planned Parenthood out of the state's women's health programs. Last week, hundreds gathered at the south steps of the Texas State Capitol in Austin to protest the resulting public health mess: Researchers say nearly 200,000 Texas women have lost or could lose access to contraception, cancer screenings, and basic preventive care, especially in low-income, rural parts of the state. I reported from the rally:
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Lol, what a crock of baloney.

Memo: PP is far from the only place where contraceptives are available. And illegitimacy (the surest route to poverty and, hence, Medicaid) is a cultural issue. How interesting, too, that after decades of sex education in schools, we're churning out people who still don't know where babies come from.
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