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I'm not sure if this is correct, or off the wall, or peer accepted research or otherwise, but I do think it shows some insight as to how deep and complex these things get genetically speaking.
Chimeras are people born with both male and female cells.
We could be posting scientific stuff in here all night. The debate is endless. My only critique of transgender theory and politics is that reinforces instead of breaking down rigid gender norms. Biological differences in males and females will always produce some gender norms in society because it's a reality but trans activists almost promote the most rigid norms of what constitutes womanhood. If there is an essence of maleness and femaleness that is non-material, then it’s not clear how surgical or chemical changes in the body transform a person. If that essence of maleness and femaleness is material, in the biological realm, then it’s not clear how those changes in selected parts of the body transform a person.
I know a lot of trans people don't go through the surgery or homone replacement therapy but if sex and gender are so complicated and intersecting, why stick to the rigidness of identifying with either or. I don't see transgender theory or politics as all that progressive if their route is to fight for such conservative notions of gender.
Serious question: how can a transgender know what it is like to feel like a woman if they have never been the other sex? 'Womanhood' is reduced to a feeling?
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Originally Posted by radiolibre99
How can it be a biological drive if a MtF doesn't have any of the female anatomy? Most have also never been raised a female? Even if they have in the case of some, it's only through reinforcing rigid gender norms; i.e. dresses, long hair, dolls, etc.
That seems to reduce womanhood into an immaterial female essence which we can't scientifically quantify. We really just have to take their word for it that they identify with the opposite sex/gender.
IMO, it boils down to what you're saying. Transgender people don't socially identify with what they are biologically. It's a psychological disorder.
It bothers me that transgender people aren't getting the help they need. Instead, we're all supposed to pretend that they are truly what their biology says they're not. It's a disservice to transgender people.
Womanhood cannot be reduced to wanting to wear dresses, play with dolls, have long hair. There are tons of woman (biological woman) who don't want to wear dresses, play with dolls, and have long hair. They're still women...because of biology.
IMO, it boils down to what you're saying. Transgender people don't socially identify with what they are biologically. It's a psychological disorder.
It bothers me that transgender people aren't getting the help they need. Instead, we're all supposed to pretend that they are truly what their biology says they're not. It's a disservice to transgender people.
Womanhood cannot be reduced to wanting to wear dresses, play with dolls, have long hair. There are tons of woman (biological woman) who don't want to wear dresses, play with dolls, and have long hair. They're still women...because of biology.
It's not only biology but that women have been raised and socialized as women meaning they carry the experiences of being the opposite sex. They don't choose it. It's a lived experience. How can a trans person know they're a woman if they don't have they don't experience life as a woman? That's reducing females to an essence or a feeling of some sort.
"The DNA-altering approach for permanently reducing homosexual and pedophile behavior in mice with a single injection could potentially reduce these sexual instincts by up to 90 percent believes Nasser Zolfaghari, PhD and assistant professor at the Tehran University of Medical Sciences."
IMO, it boils down to what you're saying. Transgender people don't socially identify with what they are biologically. [/b]It's a psychological disorder.[/b]
It bothers me that transgender people aren't getting the help they need. Instead, we're all supposed to pretend that they are truly what their biology says they're not. It's a disservice to transgender people.
Womanhood cannot be reduced to wanting to wear dresses, play with dolls, have long hair. There are tons of woman (biological woman) who don't want to wear dresses, play with dolls, and have long hair. They're still women...because of biology.
I'm pretty sure there are transgender women who don't wear dresses, have long hair, or play with dolls either. But they still feel like women. Most likely, because of biology. Biology that we don't understand yet. We don't know everything there is to know about sexual development.
But you are correct, they have not been socialized as women. So they do what they think women do, because that's what they see women do. If you are transgender in a culture where women don't wear dresses or have long hair, you're probably going to adapt to the social norms of women in the culture you're in.
And listen, I get what you're saying, it sounds logical. But the medical community does not, as a whole, agree with you. You just can't state categorically that it's a psychological disorder, as a fact. Because that would mean you know more than others who are trained and studied in the field. And more than anybody really, because no one knows for sure why it happens.
I know you don't have any malintent and are a kind compassionate person. I just disagree with you on this one.
It's not only biology but that women have been raised and socialized as women meaning they carry the experiences of being the opposite sex. They don't choose it. It's a lived experience. How can a trans person know they're a woman if they don't have they don't experience life as a woman? That's reducing females to an essence or a feeling of some sort.
Still, it is, isn't it? At its most basic level? They've tried socializing men who've had their penis' mutilated as children as women, it doesn't work. Because they always feel like men. Even after they've been castrated, and never told that they're boys. They never truly believe they are women.
People seem to know who they truly are, even when all physical and environmental evidence seems to point otherwise.
"The DNA-altering approach for permanently reducing homosexual and pedophile behavior in mice with a single injection could potentially reduce these sexual instincts by up to 90 percent believes Nasser Zolfaghari, PhD and assistant professor at the Tehran University of Medical Sciences."
It could absolutely be classified as a disease....
There are MUCH more absurd "ailments" that have been validated by the mob of peers.
I know right. I was at the doctor the other day because my fibromyalgia was acting up and I could not eat enough to recuperate myself due to my gluten allergy. I had to wait to be seen because this kid at the doctor's office came in and started complaining about his "Type 1 diabetes" and blah blah blah. They saw him before me? Can you believe it?
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