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While you are at it maybe you can explain to me how a gun is safely stored so Timmy won't shoot Billy yet still available to dad for home protection. Another example of gun nuts talking out of both sides of their mouth. If the gun is available in an instant when dad is suddenly approached by a bad guy in the middle of the night then it's also available to Timmy. If it is stored away safely the bad guy will not simply stop and allow you time to find your key, get to your gun safe or box, unlock the gun and trigger lock. If that gun in the opening post was available to an old couple who was tied up it was obviously available to any grand kid who happens to be visiting.
If you try real hard you might be able to figure out how, Or maybe not.
Part of getting the facts straight would include Hillary's position on having gun manufactures liable in court cases for what someone might do with a gun !!! Which is the backdoor gun grab !!!
Now that's tossing a grenade. He'll have no explanation for that one, Good job. Edit; Sorry didn't read the response before. that begs the question then, Why does she support it if the ultimate goal isn't to get the guns? This is her only back door chance at the moment. Just like the Repub's in Texas with the end round on abortion. they take the dishonest route when they can't get there way.
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While you are at it maybe you can explain to me how a gun is safely stored so Timmy won't shoot Billy yet still available to dad for home protection. Another example of gun nuts talking out of both sides of their mouth. If the gun is available in an instant when dad is suddenly approached by a bad guy in the middle of the night then it's also available to Timmy. If it is stored away safely the bad guy will not simply stop and allow you time to find your key, get to your gun safe or box, unlock the gun and trigger lock. If that gun in the opening post was available to an old couple who was tied up it was obviously available to any grand kid who happens to be visiting.
So, I'll play your game....
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While you are at it maybe you can explain to me how a gun is safely stored so Timmy won't shoot Billy yet still available to dad for home protection.
Here, some extremely little research could have done you a lot of good, yet you felt you lobed a grenade....
Another example of gun nuts talking out of both sides of their mouth. If the gun is available in an instant when dad is suddenly approached by a bad guy in the middle of the night then it's also available to Timmy.
No it's not....do some research.
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If it is stored away safely the bad guy will not simply stop and allow you time to find your key, get to your gun safe or box, unlock the gun and trigger lock.
Don;t need keys, but if you would do some research, yo would know that....
Why won't yo do some research?
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If that gun in the opening post was available to an old couple who was tied up it was obviously available to any grand kid who happens to be visiting.
Yet it never happened and you have no way to prove they even have grandchildren....
We only want to ban those guns that look dangerous. Basically, I don't even argue with people that make these sorts of contentions. Nor do I listen to politicians that say such things. For anyone that knows ballistics, it's actually insulting to the person making the contentions intelligence.
Don;t need keys, but if you would do some research, yo would know that....
Why won't yo do some research?
Yet it never happened and you have no way to prove they even have grandchildren....
Well thank you for at least participating instead of sitting on the sidelines throwing cheap shots. That's a pretty cool safe that would definitely fit both needs. Now if you can convince me that every single home with a gun actually had this unique safe, well then you'd have yourself a legit argument. But of course as we all know that isn't even close to the truth. I'm still not convinced that either guns are locked away safely in a gun box or a gun safe and therefore difficult if not impossible to get the instant dad discovers a bad guy in his daughter's bedroom with a gun to her head or they are under a bed etc where they can be found by the wrong hands in the vast number of cases.
I assume Guns and Ammo is a reliable source right? Here is their recommendations for how to store a gun. They gave a vague "Some boxes are fitted with quick-opening locking mechanisms" but of course those are the exceptions. Every other recommendation fits the description I have been using and are simply not instant access. So please stop proclaiming victory with a product that is not even close to being universally used.
This is my position. If you would like to despute it then YOU do the research and show me where I am wrong. And one product that is not even close to being used in every home with a gun hardly wins this debate.
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We only want to ban those guns that look dangerous. Basically, I don't even argue with people that make these sorts of contentions. Nor do I listen to politicians that say such things. For anyone that knows ballistics, it's actually insulting to the person making the contentions intelligence.
But quite comical if it weren't so serious.
I'm serious here. Convince me they are necessary. I get it, if they are banned only the bad guys will have them. I totally get that argument. But they would also be harder to get. And of course the mothers of the guys who shot up the theater in Aura Colorado or the school in Sandy Hook etc would not have had one either.
I am just struggling to understand the need for them. Is it "if they take this gun then who will stop them from taking others?" argument? I'd honestly like to understand why you feel they are so necessary.
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