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Old 03-10-2016, 10:49 PM
 
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I think anyone with a brain can tell the GOP of today will not be the GOP of the future. From what I can see the libertarian wing and the Religious Right have been thoroughly discredited with the base and aren't really going to play a major role in the future. The Religious Right has suffered a massive shellacking over the past eight years and the decline in religion is obviously going to weaken their hold even further, Donald Trump's popularity with Evangelicals despite his highly questionable behavior (bragging about having affairs with married women) is a testament to how far its influence has fallen. Libertarian policies are extremely toxic with the base and almost no one wants to see open borders, free trade, or unfettered capitalism.

Where do you see the GOP heading? Personally, I think the GOP will become a "national conservative" party and begin to emphasize white identity politics (opposing immigration and political correctness) and mixed economic policies (such as reducing H1Bs and reducing corporate power). Europe and especially Israel have been trending towards national conservatism and I think it is a very strong possibility that the GOP will head this way in the future if income inequality continues to worsen. I didn't mention the neoconservatives at all because they have already been thoroughly discredited with the base and haven't really played a major role in foreign policy discussions anymore.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It's very hard to try to predict anything.
Historically the GOP became a rump party after FDR's election for his first two terms when Democrats were elected to huge majorities in both houses, but the GOP came back into a solid minority in the 1938 election once more, and kept its strength as the minority party afterwards until the 1952 election, when Ike won the White House for them.

During the Civil War, the Democratic party split in two, north and south, and the northern Democrats also became a rump party for the following 12 years. During that time, the Democratic party reunited as the Whig party, another rump party, faded away. Some former Whigs went Democratic, more of the others went Republican.

I fully expect another Democratic win this November. After 12 years out of the White House, I think the GOP will settle their internal differences, but won't be as moderate as it was in the late 20th century. They will learn to compromise, though, at least to the point to where the government won't be funded by crisis avoidance any more.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The GOP is a collection of interests that aren't always compatible....same for Democrats. Trump is a hostile takeover of the Republican Party....if he wins, it might change the Party in a big way but I think he's more of a personality than a political philosophy. So I don't think in the long run much changes although some shifts will occur. The Republicans need a platform to appeal to the changing demographics in the nation.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The GOP is a collection of interests that aren't always compatible....same for Democrats. Trump is a hostile takeover of the Republican Party....if he wins, it might change the Party in a big way but I think he's more of a personality than a political philosophy. So I don't think in the long run much changes although some shifts will occur. The Republicans need a platform to appeal to the changing demographics in the nation.
Did you see this? Frank Luntz: Young voters spell doom for GOP
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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This is nothing more than a shake up. Some of it delights Republicans. Some of lt makes Democrats giddy.

Both parties are due for such a shaking. Republicans have been unhappy. Are the Democrats ready for such a storm? I doubt it. Democrats are just ready for Hillary, and mainly because she's a Democrat, not because she's the best one for the job. Maybe its about making history again.



Not to be mean, but I really believe the hardcover Democrat voters would pull for a ham sandwich over a rueben, because there is an "R" in the name.

Party above all else seemingly.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:18 AM
 
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The GOP is a collection of interests that aren't always compatible....same for Democrats. Trump is a hostile takeover of the Republican Party....if he wins, it might change the Party in a big way but I think he's more of a personality than a political philosophy. So I don't think in the long run much changes although some shifts will occur. The Republicans need a platform to appeal to the changing demographics in the nation.
That will require concessions that few Republicans can stomach. I can't imagine the Republican base ever getting on board with Affirmative Action. The Republicans small government and pro business platform did not attract a significant number of Blacks in the early 1930s-1950s even when Southern Democrats like Theodore Bilbo were advocating deporting Blacks and stripping their citizenship away.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Young voters have typically gone Democrat and then switched to Republican as they age. I don't think that's as much a key as the changing ethnicity in the USA...Republicans must win Asian and/or Hispanic voters or die a slow death. Last election cycle, Republicans gained much more support from Asians, not sure how, but they will need to continue doing that to survive.
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Old 03-11-2016, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Dumb article:

#1 Young voters have always been more liberal. Things change once they actually begin paying taxes. I voted for Jimmy in 1976.

#2 Socialism is a more compassionate system, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The nature of capitalism, Adam Smith:

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Every individual… neither intends to promote the public interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it… he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention.

The Wealth Of Nations, Book IV, Chapter II, p. 456, para. 9.

It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our necessities but of their advantages.

The Wealth Of Nations, Book I, Chapter II, pp. 26-7, para 12.
The hispanic vote is the big problem for the GOP.
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Old 03-11-2016, 03:55 AM
 
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The future of the GOP is nonexistent --unless DONALD J. TRUMP wins the nomination and becomes our next president.

He is the ONLY candidate who has broad appeal not only to Republicans, but to Independents and Democrats.

And yes -- honestly -- it has a lot to do with White People getting fed up with political correctness (which equals hatred of white people and nothing more) and forced demographic changes cheered on by the Democrats who want votes and the Republicans who want cheap labor.

We either remain a First World Country that honors individual freedom, personal responsibility, promotion on the basis of merit, and equality of opportunity, OR we turn into a Third World Hell-Hole.

Take your pick.....

I know what I'm in favor of....

And it ain't becoming a Third World hell-hole.

Canada should thank me.

I'm not voting for THEIR borders eventually turning into a sieve after this country has been ruined -- as it surely WILL BE if The Donald is not elected -- TWICE in 2016 and 2020!
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb What is the future of the GOP?

Scenario 1:

The GOP continues to kowtow to the ignorant religious right and they devolve into a regional party that futilely tries to advance a throwback agenda that leaves them largely irrelevant at the national level, but dominant in some states.

Scenario 2:

Republicans wake up and see the light, divorcing themselves from religious weirdos. They once again become a rational alternative to the excesses of the Democrats and return to offering reasonable policies instead of crackpot "culture wars."

Flip a coin.
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