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What about public schools? Should all public schools be privatized?
If it's not your responsibility "to pay for someone else's healthcare," then why are you okay with paying for someone else's education?
Sometimes taxes go towards supporting people that might not be contributing at the time. That's just how it is. It's unavoidable in a democratic society, so I don't understand why the notion of universal healthcare is any more opposed than many other programs.
It works fine in Canada, and there are no guns in sight, but as has been said more than once it is not free. Doctors here are very well paid, by the way.
Only a person without empathy would stand by and let another sicken and die for, let's face it, selfish reasons.
I am not my brother's keeper, particularly when that brother can keep himself but chooses not to.
why it isn't in constitution that health care should be free. like free speech.
Europe and other countries have free health care.
5 Weeks vacation per year
Honeymoon payed
Government send a baby sitter to your house to help clean, laundry when woman pregnant in France.
After watching a good documentary called "Sicko", it exposed bad it is in US. makes me want to leave U.S.
Why are there so many different health insurance companies.
Access is a right. Getting care isnt. Gotta pay, just like food isn't free.
Health care is not a human right because it has a cost that you may not be able to pay. Also because there is no way to exactly define where "Health Care" ends, and "Prolong my life or my psychological preferences about my body and what I consider to be my health at all costs" takes its place.
It is not in the same category as other rights, like "The pursuit of happiness", which you carry out according to your own means and not the means of the population at large.
For a doctor to get a degree takes 8+ years. They require a high salary to pay it off and also to pay for their specialized labor. Pharmaceutical companies spend billions of dollars trying to find new drugs that will help problems more quickly and effectively. Medical equipment companies spend nearly as much on creating new technology for diagnosis and surgery. Have you seen a CAT scan machine? The money that went into figuring out how to make one, and then into producing some working machines, is incredible.
The system is not perfect. Where there is so much money, there is also a matching level of corruption. But it's ultimately a product that consumers buy. If no charge were associated with it, as is implied by the idea that it's a "human right", you would get what you paid for. No expensive equipment, no educated physician with specialized knowledge, no helpful medicines, except what could be gotten for nothing or nearly nothing. You would get the same medicine we had in the frontier days. Even the doctors of earlier ages needed to eat, and to be paid for their knowledge and expertise.
In countries that have socialized medicine, you can see almost exactly this effect. Bumps, scrapes, flu's, broken bones, childbirth, and problems that are easy and inexpensive to resolve get taken care of very quickly and very well. But people who start to have expensive problems, cancers, heart disease, failing organs, or anything that costs a high amount of money and more-than-ordinary expertise have great difficulty getting good care. In some northern European countries, people who are seriously and expensively ill have to have family or a paid guard around the clock when they are in the hospital, so the hospital does not protect its bottom line - and the acceptable amount of money available for common problems - by euthanizing them.
You what? And what northern European countries would those be?
why it isn't in constitution that health care should be free. like free speech.
Europe and other countries have free health care.
5 Weeks vacation per year
Honeymoon payed
Government send a baby sitter to your house to help clean, laundry when woman pregnant in France.
After watching a good documentary called "Sicko", it exposed bad it is in US. makes me want to leave U.S.
Why are there so many different health insurance companies.
Small populations, same culture, no money spent on defense that amounts to anything, along with the reliance on the USA to defend them if needed.
Taxes are extremely high, free edu creates a lot of PhDs, most can only find low level jobs, many of which are with nebulous titles and responsibilities just to try to provide work. Taxed to death, very limited access to the spectrum of pharmaceutical drugs due to medical insurance restrictions. According to a colleague whose hubby has Chron's disease.
Know a couple of docs, one a surgeon who was struck with a serious ailment and resisted surgery until they could get back home. Not much faith in the medical community in EU. Interesting to hear the different reference points of pathology each country uses. We had a best selling drug in Italy, couldn't show efficacy or find a condition which it help improve but because it was a safe drug it was allowed to be sold there. The EMEA is so disjointed under the pretext of unity. that's the EU version of the FDA.
People are expected to contribute, not be malingerers.
government rules their lives to a far greater extend there than here. that's why people fled europe, it social and economic structure were too supressive and opportunity to seek your fortune was institutionally limited.
no such word as free unless you are in an iceboat on a windy day where boat speed excedes wind speed.
I don't know of any rights that require government money stolen from other people to give away... I am surprised that people even call it a "right" rather than what it really is...
And all of this swell stuff adds to overhead which is a factor of every bill, no matter who pays the bill. That overhead also includes a capital reserve for replacements and upgrades.
Over in Germany, 80% of the population choose public hospitals. Not likely to find valet parking or lattes in the lobby. Most mothers give birth in birthing centers, not hospitals and babies are delivered by licensed midwives, not OB/ GYN, unless risks warrant or patient pays out of pocket or carries supplimental insurance that allows an upgrade.
Most hospital rooms contain 6-12 beds, are not wi-fi enabled. TV, if and where available, is a surcharge as are linens and toiletries. Many bring their own linens to avoid surcharges.
Hospitals in Germany focus on safety and healthcare and generally achieve equal or better medical outcomes compared to the US.
Most hospitals in the US are private and NFP. This does not preclude profit. Many hospitals record $ hundreds of millions in profit each year. Since they can't use profits to pay dividends to shareholders, they have to invest it back into the business. Build the brand. Destroy or acquire the competition, acquire medical practices to ensure there is a pipeline for future business, advertize, fight other hospital systems that want to enter the market to protect their monopoly, expand, expand, expand and all the non- essential goodies listed above.
Insurance premiums are a reflection of healthcare costs.
These are all excellent points. Designing systems to contain healthcare costs would be helpful.
Also raises many questions, & as always, 'Cui bono?'
Why do the rights of corporations, even private non-profit ones, supersede the rights of individual human beings? Why is the corporation's or industry's right to protect monopolies seen as more important than the individual's right to protect their health?
Isn't it wonderful to have the freedom to spend maybe twice as much for healthcare as other countries do with worse results in many cases and not even covering everyone with credible coverage.
Isn't it wonderful to have the freedom to spend maybe twice as much for healthcare as other countries do with worse results in many cases and not even covering everyone with credible coverage.
And clap and cheer for the privilege of doing so.
This madness will continue until it can't.
We did it to ourselves over the years.
And now we're complaining because the costs have gone beyond our reach.
You can do something about it. Only fear prevents people from doing it.
Back in the 70's I broke my foot. Trip to the hospital, X-ray, cast. Then go back in 6 weeks to get cast off.
Not so today. My son broke his arm. Trip to hospital. X-ray which showed a simple break.
Doctors wanted to do additional CT scan "just in case". I said NO THANKS.
They put cast on. They wanted weekly visits for each of the 6 weeks to check cast. I said NO THANKS.
Went back after 6 weeks to get cast off.
It was a simple break. Do you know how much money I saved by saying NO THANKS ?
I have a high deductible plan.
Here's the problem..people don't say NO to additional tests/screenings/checkup visits because of FEAR.
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