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Old 03-17-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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to one party or the other, so we can vote in the primary!

U.S. Supreme Court orders Montana to respond to GOP primary concerns | News | billingsgazette.com

That's OK, we can register before every primary as the party we want to, if necessary, so we can vote.
As a registered Independent, apparently I won't be able to vote in a closed primary.
As it is now, I get both ballots, and choose the one I want to vote on. The other ballot is thrown away.
So, I get to vote against hillary on either a democrat or republican ballot!
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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U.S. Supreme Court orders Montana to respond to GOP primary concerns | News | billingsgazette.com
I get both ballots, and choose the one I want to vote on.
So, I get to vote against hillary on either a democrat or republican ballot!

Naw! That doesn't reek of bad intentions.
What could go wrong there?
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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You not only should be able to vote for someone, but also against someone.

Or.....If I want to vote for the (R) candidate for president while voting for the (D) candidate for Senate in the primaries, I should be able to.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You not only should be able to vote for someone, but also against someone.

Or.....If I want to vote for the (R) candidate for president while voting for the (D) candidate for Senate in the primaries, I should be able to.

Why? Primaries are for choosing a candidate to represent the Party (whatever it may be), to which you do not self-identify. Should you also have a say for, oh let's say a planning/zoning issue, in a town where you don't live or own property?


You can vote for your candidate of choice in the general election. Or not.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You not only should be able to vote for someone, but also against someone.

Or.....If I want to vote for the (R) candidate for president while voting for the (D) candidate for Senate in the primaries, I should be able to.

Primaries are fairly new in US elections. They were created by the parties.
Notice the Democrat and Republican primary and delegate protocol are different?

The "Chosen One" has a better chance than the person least liked, taking 30% of the vote and winning, with 3 similar people but opposite of the person that won value's, splitting 70% of the vote.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Why? Primaries are for choosing a candidate to represent the Party (whatever it may be), to which you do not self-identify. Should you also have a say for, oh let's say a planning/zoning issue, in a town where you don't live or own property?


You can vote for your candidate of choice in the general election. Or not.
No I can't. I stated why. If I like the (R) candidate for president and the (D) candidate for Senate, why should I have to forfeit any say for one of them in the primaries?

I self identify in siding with the best candidate.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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Primaries are fairly new in US elections. They were created by the parties.
Correct, and the parties should not be dictating how we vote.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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to one party or the other, so we can vote in the primary!

U.S. Supreme Court orders Montana to respond to GOP primary concerns | News | billingsgazette.com

That's OK, we can register before every primary as the party we want to, if necessary, so we can vote.
As a registered Independent, apparently I won't be able to vote in a closed primary.
As it is now, I get both ballots, and choose the one I want to vote on. The other ballot is thrown away.
So, I get to vote against hillary on either a democrat or republican ballot!
We have that in my state. In the primary, you have to declare a party before you are issued a ballot, but you are free to change back to an Independent before you leave the polling place.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:30 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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No I can't. I stated why. If I like the (R) candidate for president and the (D) candidate for Senate, why should I have to forfeit any say for one of them in the primaries?.......

So what? You don't want to identify as a member of a particular party but you want the privilege of voting for someone who does. So you dilute the vote of someone who is a member. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

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Correct, and the parties should not be dictating how we vote.

They aren't. They are, however, setting rules for participation in their essentially private process for choosing a candidate.


I asked you earlier if you should be allowed input in a planning/zoning issue in a community in which you neither live or own property. Same theory.


You didn't answer, by the way.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Registered Libertarians have been wrestling with this obstructionism for decades. And remember as well, that if our party doesn't maintain a sufficient number of registered voters, we're off the ballot completely; welcome to the camp!

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