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You lost me at "bovine." I quit reading after that. Why can't you show some respect for people who have made different choices than you? If you don't want to have children, great. It's your life. You should live it however you see fit, so long as you don't harm anyone else in the process. Why do you have to disparage people who have chosen differently though? It's not a competition. My guess is you're secretly jealous of people with families and wish you had one, but you don't think you deserve one for whatever reason.
Same here. I had no interest at all in anything else the OP said.
What you have stated is how *some* parents believe, many others are not like that and they do travel for their jobs and take on all the responsibilities that come along with having children and a job where one has to travel, work evenings, weekends or overtime. We are adults who did all of these things often when our children were young.
So blame your co-worker bugging you but no one else.
I'm not blaming others. Though, that Well, you're single, so... mentality isn't exactly uncommon.
What you have stated is how *some* parents believe, many others are not like that and they do travel for their jobs and take on all the responsibilities that come along with having children and a job where one has to travel, work evenings, weekends or overtime. We are adults who did all of these things often when our children were young.
So blame your co-worker bugging you but no one else.
When I was single I always took the opportunity to work holidays, travel, and do things that were difficult for those with kids. I liked working, made extra money, and liked helping out my co-workers. This whole topic is a sad reflection of our societal attitude and decay.
Society is one big organism, parents and their kids are not islands. Society also benefits us all.
Kids are not the possessions of their parents, but independent humans and as such part of society as well, thus their well-being is in the interest of all of society.
That's fine. Can we set some standards that each child should meet then? Shouldn't we all have a say as how you should raise your children?
Society is a big organism but you shouldn't forcefully pass your responsibility onto others.
It's like when my co-worker says that I should be the one to travel or whatever because I don't have kids to take care of. That's ridiculous. When you have kids, you take on the burdens, responsibilities, and sacrifices that come along with it. I don't have kids, so I don't have to take on your burdens and sacrifices for your kids. Stuff like that bugs me.
If anybody says that to me, I'd go talk to my supervisor and HR and file that as a discrimination!
How other people choose to live their lives is none of your business. If they pay taxes and don't use welfare, how are you playing holier than thou game when you raise your children by using taxpayers money?
Most people don't raise children on taxpayers' money. How productive and responsible can a person be if he/she/ze/it is seeping all day, using drugs, and drinking? It's none of the OP's business if other people have kids, yet he/she/ze/it made a ranting topic about it.
That's fine. Can we set some standards that each child should meet then? Shouldn't we all have a say as how you should raise your children?
Society is a big organism but you shouldn't forcefully pass your responsibility onto others.
Other than that kids should be raised to be law-abiding, decent citizens, no. A child does not only have to do with their parents, but with various other people - society - as a whole. They learn more from their teachers than from their parents these days, teachers we pay for with our tax money, in schools we pay for with our tax money.
What responsibility? Let's face it, people do make mistakes, always have and always will, for instance they get pregnant without wanting to. But we should not punish the kids for that. Like it or not, kids from broken families and troubled backgrounds are also our future.
There are very few if any women that have kids just in order to get some benefits. But somehow a lot of people seem to think the world is full of them. That is unfortunate because it makes certain people egoistic and cold, thinking only of their own wallets. Oddly, people who complain about other people's irresponsible parenthood are often also people who want to outlaw abortion.
You lost me at "bovine." I quit reading after that. Why can't you show some respect for people who have made different choices than you? If you don't want to have children, great. It's your life. You should live it however you see fit, so long as you don't harm anyone else in the process. Why do you have to disparage people who have chosen differently though? It's not a competition. My guess is you're secretly jealous of people with families and wish you had one, but you don't think you deserve one for whatever reason.
well said i personally choose not to have children because i knew i would be a better uncle than i would a father. but by the same token i dont insult people that chose to have children.
I think of it like this: If one fails to have children, then all those millions and millions of years of making you - your particular combination of dust - from the first one-celled living thing on earth, past the oceans, past the dinosaurs, past the advent of the mammal and the upright primate, surviving all that nature could throw at it, wars, famine, disease and persevering to become you --- ENDS with you. Your twig on of the tree of life just dies when you die and whatever little miracle of survival you might represent is lost for eternity.
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