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Old 04-14-2016, 11:17 AM
 
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No, it is you who thinks it is okay for adults to be exposing themselves to children as long as they have the same genitalia. Children should not be sharing the same locker rooms as adults to begin with, especially ones where people are exposing their genitalia to others.

I have never been to a school that has a pool, and swimming isn't a required class for most school systems.

All rec centers, private gyms, public swimming pools that I have ever been in have locker rooms with limited options for privacy. A person could go into a shower stall or a toilet stall if they desired privacy but the majority of the people change clothing in a communal space. Children should be able to go into the locker room with a parent. The solution is to have at least a few family changing rooms available for Dad's of young daughters, moms of young sons, caregivers of the opposite sex, transgenders.

 
Old 04-14-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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This might be the most hollow political stunt I've seen, well, since those other businesses have pledged to boycott North Carolina but are happy to do business in countries that will execute you for being gay. Freaking hypocrites.

But it made Facebook trending and they got their free publicity. People who hate the law will be more likely to try this porn site and those who support the law weren't going to XHamster in the first place.
Highly doubt this. I'm sure the supporters of this law are among its most frequent visitors. Sexual hypocrisy and conservatism go hand in hand.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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I don't think a state should allow people from outside that state to force them to allow peeping Tom pervert males into the women's locker room to watch women undress and change, no matter what the threat. I would hope my state would have the balls to do what the electorate want, regardless of how people in other states think so long as it's Constitutional.

But my guess is these type boycotts (no the Porn site or idiot Springsteen boycott but Paypal and athletic events) will be effective until you get some rapes in the women's locker room due to laws allowing anyone to claim some PC status coming in.
What is the hangup with conservatives that there maybe "peeping Tom pervert males" and that girls may see male "genitalia?" Why the obsession?
 
Old 04-14-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Your irrational anxieties are your problem, not society's. There's a woman who I happen to know is trans (though she "passes") who goes to my gym. There are certainly more that I don't happen to know for sure what genitalia they sport under their clothes. According to this law, they should have to out themselves because someone who is certainly paying far too much attention to other people changing *might* notice that they're trans.

Can we ban people thinking about others' genitalia from restrooms and locker rooms? They're much more of a threat to society than a transperson. And they make ME uncomfortable, which is all that matters, right?
The majority of women and girls do not want to change in front biological men or see biological men change in front of them. Nothing irrational about it one bit. You're also ignoring the fact that poorly written laws allow for non-trans predator to take advantage, but who cares about crime as long as you get to do whatever you want, right? The right to privacy for the 99.999% of the non-trans is more important than your penis. Showering with females isn't a civil right. If you take testosterone, removed your breasts, sport a beard and identify as make but believe having a vulva is compatible with male identity that's between you and your therapist.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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No, it is you who thinks it is okay for adults to be exposing themselves to children as long as they have the same genitalia. Children should not be sharing the same locker rooms as adults to begin with, especially ones where people are exposing their genitalia to others.

I have never been to a school that has a pool, and swimming isn't a required class for most school systems.
Where did I mention pools in schools??? On planet earth, we have swimming pools that are public, run by city parks and rec, and private, run by gyms, clubs, etc.

Still waiting for you to grasp the meaning of "indecent" exposure but I see you refuse, and are determined to force yourself where you're not wanted. Why are you so incensed by the fact that little girls don't want to undress with you?
 
Old 04-14-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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The majority of women and girls do not want to change in front biological men or see biological men change in front of them.

That's an irrational societal fear surrounded by our society putting more sexual focus on nudity than actually exists.



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You're also ignoring the fact that poorly written laws allow for non-trans predator to take advantage, but who cares about crime as long as you get to do whatever you want, right?

You'd have a point if that was actually an issue.


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The right to privacy for the 99.999% of the non-trans is more important than your penis.

When it comes to bathrooms, especially the female ones where everyone is in stalls, MtF people using those bathrooms will not infringe on anyone's privacy.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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Where did I mention pools in schools??? On planet earth, we have swimming pools that are public, run by city parks and rec, and private, run by gyms, clubs, etc.

Still waiting for you to grasp the meaning of "indecent" exposure but I see you refuse, and are determined to force yourself where you're not wanted. Why are you so incensed by the fact that little girls don't want to undress with you?
Funny, I am still waiting for you to grasp that it isn't okay for adults to be exposing themselves to children. Would you be okay if a man exposed himself to a boy? Then why are you okay with an adult woman exposing herself to a little girl?

If you are so worried about seeing a penis in the women's locker room, may I suggest changing at home or using one of these private stalls to prevent yourself from being exposed to all these fictional penises you would be encountering.

As an adult, I have no interest to be taking my clothes off in front of children because that is wrong, apparently you are fine with that as long as the genitalia match.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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I think this will be viewed as an unintended positive consequence of the law.
Apparently the highest rates of porn viewing are from the Bible belt states.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Well I guess North Carolinians will just have to get their porn from one of the other 230,000,000,000,000,000 porn sites on the net.




There are plenty of good musicians in the State too.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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It's too bad there's so little porn on the net for the good citizens of NC to find elsewhere. Maybe someone can fill this niche for them, I know its a tough thing to get into.
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