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Old 04-11-2016, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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States rights, huh?

Funny how that has a certain ring to it. States rights, states rights. Hmmm...where have i heard that before?
Probably before the 1964 Civil Rights Act, many states felt that the legislation was a violation of their rights
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Probably before the 1964 Civil Rights Act, many states felt that the legislation was a violation of their rights
Of course they did.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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Of course they did.
No doubt some folks felt the same way about the Civil Rights Act of 1875.

Here, for example, is the declaration that the Supreme Court of Virginia used to invalidate a marriage between a black man and a white woman in 1878:

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The purity of public morals," the court declared, "the moral and physical development of both races….require that they should be kept distinct and separate… that connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them, should be prohibited by positive law, and be subject to no evasion.
Here are four of the arguments used to reinstate & then later expand miscegenation laws:

1) First, judges claimed that marriage belonged under the control of the states rather than the federal government.

2) Second, they began to define and label all interracial relationships (even longstanding, deeply committed ones) as illicit sex rather than marriage.

3) Third, they insisted that interracial marriage was contrary to God's will, and

4) Fourth, they declared, over and over again, that interracial marriage was somehow "unnatural."

The fifth argument is even more specious than the first four.

- See more at: History News Network | Why the Ugly Rhetoric Against Gay Marriage Is Familiar to this Historian of Miscegenation
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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I was just ranting in another thread about this, are we living in 1950? Are we allowed to just now openly discriminate against a group of people.

If this were aimed at non-whites you know it wouldn't fly, why is this acceptable to discriminate against gay people.

I'm of the mindset that being gay is NOT a choice, it just is. People are born a certain way, period, end of subject. That being said how can one treat a group of people differently, I mean it's the same as being born white or black or whatever.

I'm sickened that in 2016 we still have to address this stupid issue.
Hmm... so are you saying these laws in North Carolina and Mississippi are literally like Jim Crow laws for gay people? If a gay couple (I guess they'd have to be exhibiting some sort of same sex affection?) were to go sit at a lunch counter of an owner who claims to be "religious", the owner can tell them to leave?

So weird to me if that happens... does this happen in actual cities or in small little rural towns mostly?

I guess since I've lived in my Southern California bubble all my life I've never come across this in real life.
Sure I remember years ago looking twice when for the first time I saw an openly gay couple at Disneyland holding hands, even if my friends and I would hang out with gay friends at clubs and stuff in the late '70's. It's not that I disapproved, it was just something you didn't see everyday and I thought it was interesting and brave of them.

My half sister, who's almost 20 years older than me was also unfamiliar with societies like Jim Crow stuff because of living in California. I always heard the story of how she and her husband, who were traveling through the south in the early 60's when they were on tour in a stage play. They went to a coffee shop and she went to the restroom that were on the side of the building and she saw the "white" ones and the "black" ones. She came back into the restaurant raging about it because she had only heard of this stuff and was flipping out because she saw it with her own eyes and was completely shocked and disgusted!
Her husband was born and raised in the south, and noticed the locals were starting to give them the "eye" because of all the fuss she was making about it, so he dragged her out of there quickly.
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