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Old 04-11-2016, 08:18 AM
 
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I'm fairly neutral on my position when it comes to gay/straight issues. However, why is it that those who scream 'tolerance' aren't willing to be tolerant of others' view if they are different?


If someone doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for whatever reason, is that being intolerant? Yes. But, for those people that are going to give said bakery a hard time for their decision, isn't that also being intolerant?
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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we're talking about human rights here. not some random inanimate object.

no one is saying you have to open up your home to gays. all they want is to be treated like human beings. is that too much to ask for?
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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I'm fairly neutral on my position when it comes to gay/straight issues. However, why is it that those who scream 'tolerance' aren't willing to be tolerant of others' view if they are different?


If someone doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for whatever reason, is that being intolerant? Yes. But, for those people that are going to give said bakery a hard time for their decision, isn't that also being intolerant?

Liberals want tolerance for gays and minorities (which every person should have anyway), but have no tolerance for any opinions which disagree with them.

Liberalism= Fascism

How many times do you see conservatives disrupting democrat speeches/rallies or shouting down liberal speakers?
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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I'm fairly neutral on my position when it comes to gay/straight issues. However, why is it that those who scream 'tolerance' aren't willing to be tolerant of others' view if they are different?


If someone doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for whatever reason, is that being intolerant? Yes. But, for those people that are going to give said bakery a hard time for their decision, isn't that also being intolerant?

I have noticed a double standard when it comes to tolerance/intolerance. The people who tend to scream the loudest about it seem to be unaware of the fact that they are not practicing what they preach as they are completely intolerant of anyone holding views that differ from their own. It's very hypocritical.
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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I have noticed a double standard when it comes to tolerance/intolerance. The people who tend to scream the loudest about it seem to be unaware of the fact that they are not practicing what they preach as they are completely intolerant of anyone holding views that differ from their own. It's very hypocritical.
what if those same loud people refused service to heterosexuals and were able to pass laws to back them?

closed minded people always think they're allowed to hate with impunity and hide behind religion or free speech while doing so.

all they want is to be treated like ANYBODY ELSE. got that?
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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no one is saying you have to open up your home to gays
Yet.

It would not shock me if the government started to impose sanctions on people who are "discriminatory ".

Theoretically, I can see them say you will no longer receive a tax deduction for on your income taxes for your mortgage interest if some agency determines that you discriminate against your neighbors due to their religion, color or sexual orientation and aren't including them in your social engagements like you do with other neighbors.
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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as long as everyone has the same options- that's what is important- equality is what we should stand for- - not opinions
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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I'm fairly neutral on my position when it comes to gay/straight issues. However, why is it that those who scream 'tolerance' aren't willing to be tolerant of others' view if they are different?


If someone doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for whatever reason, is that being intolerant? Yes. But, for those people that are going to give said bakery a hard time for their decision, isn't that also being intolerant?
Actually, I have no tolerance for constant insults, judgment, harassment & laws being made against a group of people. It really is that simple. Be a civil person, it's not hard.
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:36 AM
 
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we're talking about human rights here. not some random inanimate object.

no one is saying you have to open up your home to gays. all they want is to be treated like human beings. is that too much to ask for?
I guess then, it's debatable as to what a 'human right' is? That's sort of at the crux of whether a person is prolife or prochoice when it comes to abortion.


For the gay debate, if one's religion precludes someone from agreeing with a gay lifestyle, then the 'human right' argument is nullified.
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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what if those same loud people refused service to heterosexuals and were able to pass laws to back them?

closed minded people always think they're allowed to hate with impunity and hide behind religion or free speech while doing so.

all they want is to be treated like ANYBODY ELSE. got that?
I would go somewhere else. The same as in not repeating my business somewhere after a poor experience.

Same for any type of reason I use in my decision making process to select one business over an other.

The sentiments expressed above and other posts on this subject appear to place all of the power in either the busines or the customer. It should be a balance. I do notice how some tend to correlate the Whites Only restrictions with the No Gay restrictions. I do not need to be a raging queen about it and sue etc.

I have a business. I do not approve of prostitution. Prostitution is legal in my state. Do I refuse service to a prostitute? Replace pros. for gay and it is the same. Northeasth... comparison stands. I am hetero. I see A no hetero served sign. Ok. I go somewhere else.
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