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Old 08-02-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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It's a right for the citizens, and requiring an ID doesn't take that away.
No election has even been lost because of voter fraud. So what's the real reason for an ID
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Voting is a right, I thought you were a strict constitutionalist.
Where in the Constitution does it say an ID is not required to vote?
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:35 PM
 
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Requiring poor people to pay for an ID is equal to a "poll tax" and as such, it does take that right away.

Hey, if these states are willing to offer free picture IDs to residents, I'm fine with the requirement.

Let's be honest, we all know these requirements have nothing to do with voter fraud and are all about disenfranchisement.

Look at Texas.

Their law allowed for concealed carry permits to be used as identification, but not college IDs. Explain to me how that is not disenfranchisement.

Why would we ever want to prevent college students from using their student ID to vote? Could it be because many of them won't vote for the people making the law?

And while you are at it, please show me where voter fraud has been committed by people using college IDs and never by someone using a concealed carry permit.
A Texas handgun license is issued by the Department of Public Safety, the same department that issues identification or licenses to drive. I assume they require the same paperwork (birth certificate and proof of residency). To get a student ID, you have to register for college. They accept foreign students and those here illegally. It's not proof of eligibility for anything but the college.
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:36 PM
 
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No election has even been lost because of voter fraud. So what's the real reason for an ID
How do you know that?
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:45 PM
 
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How do you know that?
Seriously? You think thousands of people or more committed voter fraud to rig an election. It's up to you to tell me though since you want everyone to have an ID.
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's a right for the citizens, and requiring an ID doesn't take that away.
Yes it does, the courts just ruled on that issue.
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:41 AM
 
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Yes it does, the courts just ruled on that issue.
Sweet. Let me go skip that handgun permit, right? Because until the courts actually remove their heads from their posterior and make rulings that only apply one way then change their mind when they don't agree with that right.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Sweet. Let me go skip that handgun permit, right? Because until the courts actually remove their heads from their posterior and make rulings that only apply one way then change their mind when they don't agree with that right.
If your middle name was spelled wrong on your birth certificate, you could still get your 'gun permit', but in many states that would keep you from getting a voter ID. THAT is the problem, if ID's were free, easy to get and made accommodations for people who don't have a birth certificate or their divorce papers from 50 years ago this would not be an issue.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
No election has even been lost because of voter fraud. So what's the real reason for an ID

False.

How Johnson Won Election He'd Lost - NYTimes.com

Though I do agree IDs would not have mattered in this case.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Where in the Constitution does it say an ID is not required to vote?


Where does it say a picture ID is required.


These states already have a process the only problem was they couldn't remove a certain demographic from the scrolls.
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