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View Poll Results: What is the "perfect" level of atmospheric CO2?
500 ppm 5 18.52%
400 ppm 1 3.70%
300 ppm 5 18.52%
200 ppm 3 11.11%
0 ppm 2 7.41%
we need much higher levels of CO2 to help plant life 11 40.74%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-27-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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The AGW crowd is constantly demanding that the world reduce CO2 emissions to "save the planet". Yet, througout the course of history on earth, we have had CO2 levels which are 30X what they are today in which plant and animal life thrived.

So................. if today's CO2 level is too high (as it must be, as it is contributing to "global warming"), what is the "correct" or appropriate level of CO2 that WE SHOULD HAVE in our atmosphere?
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Old 04-27-2016, 04:27 PM
 
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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Whatever it is, we need to change. It's not just what we put into the atmosphere that's scary, it's what the earth does with that extra heat. There are billions of tons of CO2 trapped in arctic tundra, ice sheets and glaciers that will be released once that part of the world warms up. Humanity will probably survive, but the catastrophes, ocean rise, a greenhouse effect that'll last 1000 years even if we were to stop all emissions, rapid weather instability, crop failure, subtropical areas could end up resembling the Sahara....it won't be a picnic for anyone.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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Stop breathing or we are all going to die!
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:28 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The AGW crowd is constantly demanding that the world reduce CO2 emissions to "save the planet". Yet, througout the course of history on earth, we have had CO2 levels which are 30X what they are today in which plant and animal life thrived.

So................. if today's CO2 level is too high (as it must be, as it is contributing to "global warming"), what is the "correct" or appropriate level of CO2 that WE SHOULD HAVE in our atmosphere?
No. The amount is contextual, this is another ignorant point you are trying to make.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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Whatever it is, we need to change. It's not just what we put into the atmosphere that's scary, it's what the earth does with that extra heat. There are billions of tons of CO2 trapped in arctic tundra, ice sheets and glaciers that will be released once that part of the world warms up. Humanity will probably survive, but the catastrophes, ocean rise, a greenhouse effect that'll last 1000 years even if we were to stop all emissions, rapid weather instability, crop failure, subtropical areas could end up resembling the Sahara....it won't be a picnic for anyone.

"Whatever it is, we need to change".

That is an interesting statement. Usually, when undertaking an endeavor, one has a goal in mind. So if the goal is to reduce atmopsheric CO2, what is the "perfect" CO2 level you are striving to achieve? How do we know if we have gone too far? When do we know to stop?

Oh the problems with AGW. The supporters of AGW KNOW that CO2 levels are TOO HIGH today (despite them being 30X in the past- that was fine then- but not today), yet have no idea of what CO2 level is "good".

Now if you don't know what CO2 level is "perfect" or "just fine", how in the world do you KNOW that CO2 levels today are too high? Maybe they need to be higher.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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"Whatever it is, we need to change".

That is an interesting statement. Usually, when undertaking an endeavor, one has a goal in mind. So if the goal is to reduce atmopsheric CO2, what is the "perfect" CO2 level you are striving to achieve? How do we know if we have gone too far? When do we know to stop?

Oh the problems with AGW. The supporters of AGW KNOW that CO2 levels are TOO HIGH today (despite them being 30X in the past- that was fine then- but not today), yet have no idea of what CO2 level is "good".

Now if you don't know what CO2 level is "perfect" or "just fine", how in the world do you KNOW that CO2 levels today are too high? Maybe they need to be higher.
Yes, let's make them higher.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:39 PM
 
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If politicians would quit producing methane with their speeches it would help.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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No. The amount is contextual, this is another ignorant point you are trying to make.
"The amount is contextual".

Okay- In the "context" of today (this very day and minute), what is the correct CO2 level?

How do you know when to stop reducing CO2 output unless you know the "optimal" CO2?

How do you know when "we" have gone too far in reducing CO2?

What if "we" go too far?

You seem to have the habit of calling everything that you cannot answer and fail to understand , "ignorant". Is not your response "ignorant"? If you understand CO2 and YOU KNOW that today's levels are TOO HIGH, you must have a very good idea of what CO2 level is "the best" and why. Tell us................... please.
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