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View Poll Results: Should Intentional Vandalizing a Veterans Memorial Be Considered a Hate Crime
yes 13 39.39%
no 18 54.55%
other 1 3.03%
not sure 1 3.03%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-31-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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Should Intentional Vandalizing a Veterans Memorial Be Considered a Hate Crime
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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No, it's already a crime no need to make conflate it more.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Hate crime by definition, is a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence.

So possibly. If there is violence involved.

But if there is no violence involved, then it is criminal mischief in the first degree
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Hate crime by definition, is a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence.

So possibly. If there is violence involved.

But if there is no violence involved, then it is criminal mischief in the first degree
These were non violent???
Students Charged With Hate Crime For Painting Swastika, 'Trump' On Chapel
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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No, it's already a crime no need to make conflate it more.
"No, it's already a crime no need to make conflate it more"

Yet we HAVE hate crime laws which IMO, are ONLY used by the left run DOJ to go after whites yet, we seldom , if ever, see them go after blacks who commit crime against whites.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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well, if there is violence involved, then it is hate crime.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:12 AM
 
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If hate crime is to exist, then sure. I don't think a 'hate' crime should exist though. An assault that is racially motivated does not logically need to be defined separately from any other assault. It's not that the racism factor is unimportant but rather I'm not sure giving it a separate label actually does anything other than makes us feel like we've accomplished more than we actually have.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Should Intentional Vandalizing a Veterans Memorial Be Considered a Hate Crime
the legal concept of a hate crime needs to be abolished.


any given crime needs to be judged on its own merit.


the fallacy that labeling a crime against some protected class, cops etc to heap on additional punishment is mind boggling.


Any law can be changed at any time, discretion is taken from judges...a good thing and a bad thing, depending on the competency of the judge.


The justice system is broken and out dated, toss in activist, career oriented prosecutors who derive from a DOJ where its head can lie on a warrant, judge shop and receive no legal penalty and justice becomes a fantasy.


Defacing a vet or other monument should be a property crime with appropriate penalties that must include restitution.
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Old 05-31-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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No. The idea that when identical crimes are committed, one is deemed worse because of politician's whims, it makes the legal system look arbitrary.
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Old 05-31-2016, 07:32 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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There shouldn't be any hate crimes period.

A crime is a crime, plain and simple.
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