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Old 05-03-2016, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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This is sad all around. I can see trying to intervene to save a life but trying to apprehend a fleeing suspect should be left to police.

Should concealed weapons holders be making arrests?

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The concealed carry permit holder was trying to intervene in a domestic dispute, trying to disarm the fleeing shooter, trying to do the job ordinarily reserved for police.

Instead, he was killed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-is-shot-dead/
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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At least he attempted to do something - more than most people can say. Seems like more people would pull their phones out and video tragic events...while yelling "Worldstar!", than intervene these days.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:21 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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This is sad all around. I can see trying to intervene to save a life but trying to apprehend a fleeing suspect should be left to police.

Should concealed weapons holders be making arrests?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-is-shot-dead/


even I as a ccw holder, know better than to get involved in a domestic dispute. this person was just plain wrong, and should have stayed out of a domestic dispute unless someone was in danger of being killed.

as far as making arrests, everyone has the authority to make a citizens arrest on gross misdemeanors and felonies.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:27 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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That's a scenario that kills a lot of cops.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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This is what happens when you mix too much macho with a gun. Try to act like a badass and sometimes it will go horribly wrong. He should have just called the police and given them a good description of the suspect and his license plate number instead of acting like he was Batman.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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even I as a ccw holder, know better than to get involved in a domestic dispute. this person was just plain wrong, and should have stayed out of a domestic dispute unless someone was in danger of being killed.

as far as making arrests, everyone has the authority to make a citizens arrest on gross misdemeanors and felonies.


Reps to you.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I don't carry a gun. As much as I like guns, I still won't carry one.

If you're going to haul the hogleg out, shoot it! Don't go waving the thing around and pointing it at people. Shoot it, or put it away.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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If you're going to haul the hogleg out, shoot it! Don't go waving the thing around and pointing it at people. Shoot it, or put it away.
Any responsible gun owner knows this rule...you do not pull it out without the intent. The moment you start being bravado with a gun, without the intent...you'll wind up the victim.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Wow, what a terrible story. This is why (gun or no gun) I wouldn't want to get involved with a domestic dispute, although it really seems like the opposite of the right thing to do. It seems most of these things go south when someone else gets involved, although they're just trying to help.

Looks like they were both military.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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This was on our local news yesterday, since it happened over in Arlington.


This gentleman's (Mr. Antell) impulse was good; it was even heroic. However, the assailant, after shooting the woman (turned out to be his wife) in the leg, had gotten into his car to leave, and was even driving away, when confronted by Mr. Antell (whom had run to his truck to get his gun). The assailant then got out of his vehicle, and apparently got the first shot in.


It is sad beyond measure. One cannot condemn Mr. Antell's impulse, but one wishes that he had recognized that the assailant was, in fact, leaving, and so leave it to the police. Indeed, I would bet that when Mr. Antell returned to his vehicle to get his gun, his own wife, sitting in the vehicle and witnessing all, pleaded with him to stay out of it.


Again, one cannot condemn Mr. Antell's impulse. It is such people that will, in future, prevent some new massacre. For all we know, Mr. Antell believed that such was in progress. I do feel sorry for his family, and I will join in on calling him a hero, for he acted out of the best of intentions.
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