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I am curious, who came up with the idea of marriage? and why?
Sex is between a man and a women, anything else is wrong, not because of some notion of god or laws.. but because you can not propagate the race. That is the design behind sex in the first place.
The same logic could get you with the pleasures we associate with eating; we eat to avoid starvation, to sustain life. Should all eating done for the pleasure of tasting be outlawed; every bite of nurishment that isnt medically required.
Should marriages be annulled if they prove to be infertile or once the female of the breeding pair, gets beyond being fertile?
I think the original intent is an absurd logic; Adam was lonely not wanting to reproduce. One could argue that the Garden of Eden was originally intended to be an experiment of two....go forth and populate the world was an after thought when things didnt go as planned.
The same logic could get you with the pleasures we associate with eating; we eat to avoid starvation, to sustain life. Should all eating done for the pleasure of tasting be outlawed; every bite of nurishment that isnt medically required.
Should marriages be annulled if they prove to be infertile or once the female of the breeding pair, gets beyond being fertile?
I think the original intent is an absurd logic; Adam was lonely not wanting to reproduce. One could argue that the Garden of Eden was originally intended to be an experiment of two....go forth and populate the world was an after thought when things didnt go as planned.
Perfect post and I agree. For example I have no desire to have children whatsoever and yet this does not invalidate my love and commitment to my fiance. Does the fact we do not wish to breed mean our love is un-natural and marriage should be denied to us ?
Sex is fun, relationships are fun, fulfilling and a huge part of our humanity.
Marriage should be a choice to those who wish to partake of it. whatever the sex-mix.
It's not about having kids. It's just a symbol and a form of public recognition and I do not see why Gay people should be discriminated against. Plus there seems to be a lot of legal advantages to be had by marriage as well and once again the law and its benefits as well as duties) should apply to all, Gay or Heterosexual.
Geez, Mooseketeer, you stole my train of thought again. But, I'll post it anyway.
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Originally Posted by Muhnay
I am curious, who came up with the idea of marriage? and why?
Sex is between a man and a women, anything else is wrong, not because of some notion of god or laws.. but because you can not propagate the race. That is the design behind sex in the first place.
I was sterilized over 30 years ago, does that mean that I shouldn’t marry?
I thought the design behind sex was fun, and a lot of it. That’s why I got sterilized in the first place!
Why shouldn't gays marry?
It is one of the few ways that whacko fundy parents can't deny one partner access to the child that they hate for being gay anyway.
Why are mostly christians hell-bent on denying people the opportunity to love and to enjoy the same benefits of any other loving couple?
I think all marriage is wrong.
Humans weren't meant to be monogamous...yes, some are, and some choose a mate and stick with them for a lifetime...but it's not natural.
That being said...I think gays should have all the rights as any other human on this earth.
Really, what IS it to you? Does your neighbor's divorce make your marriage immediately unhappy, or null and void?
It's like complaining that the brand of toilet paper used by the guy down the road causes your brand of paper to chap your hiney.
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Originally Posted by coffeehound
Not really. If mass numbers of my neighbors divorce, their kids are still living in my neighborhood, relying more and more on taxpayer-funded services, causing more school and community disruption, and generally making life more difficult for me and my own family.
In small numbers, these problems were easily absorbed. In a world where half of all marriages end in divorce, the fallout becomes difficult to handle. In a world where half of all kids are born to people who didn't even bother to marry in the first place... you witness a lot of community disintegration.
Flight to the atomized 'burbs where you think you can hide from the dysfunction.
The value of stable two-parent households to community development are quite well-established. The kids are less prone to crime, drugs, violence, more likely to finish school, less likely to get pregnant as teenagers, blah, blah, blah.
So yeah, easy divorce has been very bad for everyone, even the long-term marrieds.
Great answer, coffeehound, to a question that frankly, boggles my mind.
To the OP: I think we'll unfortunately find out what's wrong with gay marriage/unions in another 20-30 years, when the kids they adopt/have get older and we either will see the ramifications above that coffeehouse mentions, or we will see happy, healthy loving kids who have never been influenced by their parents' behavior or lifestyle.
No it wasn't. That was added in the 50s during the McCarthy era (as I recall...might have to check my facts here) as a knee-jerk reaction to the satanic Commie Pinkos.
**Edit: And most of you who spout that rhetoric forget about the "liberty and justice FOR ALL" part.
Liberty and justice have very little to do with marriage.
I only have 2 exapmles that have formed my opinion on this subject...
My adoptive parents: A heterosexual couple who could never get enough to drink, who filled my days with terror, who physically fought...constantly...
My sister & her life partner: A lesbian couple who have been together for over 25 years, have never had a physical fight, have been wonderful Aunts to my 2 children, who travel and enjoy life...
Liberty and justice have very little to do with marriage.
That remark should take a prize for one of the wittiest and funniest retorts in CD-F history! I love it.
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