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Old 05-12-2016, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Florida has not had a major hurricane in 10 years. During the last 10 years, 3 million additional people have moved to the state. They are in for a big surprise when one hits. If there is a major hurricane this year, I'm certain there are many who will claim 'climate change'.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:31 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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And you shouldn't go from the low to the high like that, but just glancing at it, you can see the rise pattern that has happened over that period of time, so no, it is not flat like you are claiming.
You are using a recent peak as your top. Without that it is flat. And if you started in 1940 it would be down. That year or one of the next few years the "ice-out" on the Yukon River was extremely early.
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Old 05-13-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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The cooling started around 1940.
https://www.newscientist.com/article...cause-warming/
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I was referring to one chart that started at 1953 and ended recently. It is that chart that I contend is flat. I have stated repeatedly that any purported demonstration of "global temperatures" is highly suspect. Why not show a few stations in inhabited parts of the world with continuous, reliable records? Those are less subject to "adjustment."
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I think that this summer will be interesting, to say the least...

Climate scientists tracking anthropogenic climate disruption (ACD) have long feared what is referred to as a blue ocean event.
A blue ocean event means a complete absence of Arctic sea ice, allowing the heat of the sun to fully penetrate the open waters of the Arctic, which would then dramatically accelerate the rate of warming in the Arctic.
This dramatic shift would then cause a profound disruption of both atmospheric and ocean-current circulation around the globe, contributing to an increasingly ice-free Arctic, rising sea levels and dramatic increases in ACD everywhere.


Dahr Jamail | Arctic Sea Ice Could Disappear This Summer
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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I think that this summer will be interesting, to say the least...

Climate scientists tracking anthropogenic climate disruption (ACD) have long feared what is referred to as a blue ocean event.
A blue ocean event means a complete absence of Arctic sea ice, allowing the heat of the sun to fully penetrate the open waters of the Arctic, which would then dramatically accelerate the rate of warming in the Arctic.
This dramatic shift would then cause a profound disruption of both atmospheric and ocean-current circulation around the globe, contributing to an increasingly ice-free Arctic, rising sea levels and dramatic increases in ACD everywhere.


Dahr Jamail | Arctic Sea Ice Could Disappear This Summer
ACD...lmao
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: New York City
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The decrease and acceleration in decrease of the size of the arctic ice caps is enough evidence to show a real effect. By the time the Antarctic starts to go it'll really be too late. I'm not saying we have to do all these crazy things to cap emissions, because it's totally futile. But the government needs to pump some serious money into geo-engineering to find ways to get the carbon out of the air and other ways to reverse the warming trend
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Old 05-13-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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The decrease and acceleration in decrease of the size of the arctic ice caps is enough evidence to show a real effect. By the time the Antarctic starts to go it'll really be too late. I'm not saying we have to do all these crazy things to cap emissions, because it's totally futile. But the government needs to pump some serious money into geo-engineering to find ways to get the carbon out of the air and other ways to reverse the warming trend
No they don't. We just have to accept it and adapt.
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Old 05-13-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Here you go

What is the correct average temperature for Alaska?

What is the correct average temperature for the planet?

And why?
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Old 05-13-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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What is the correct average temperature for Alaska?

What is the correct average temperature for the planet?

And why?
I have stated repeatedly that any purported demonstration of "global temperatures" is highly suspect. Why not show a few stations in inhabited parts of the world with continuous, reliable records? Those are less subject to "adjustment."

Composite graphs are subject to such fudging and manipulation.
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