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Old 05-25-2016, 06:21 PM
 
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At the very least it is competent to learn the national language of any country that you are staying in for any period of time longer than a week. Bilingualism is cool and a useful way to build communications in a country but just isn't all that practical. Yes in the largest cities it isn't that hard to find English speakers, it is the language of business, arts and science and higher education virtually everywhere can speak English, but get off the beaten trail and good luck finding someone who can speak English. Learn the local language and you can talk with folks wherever you want to go.
Def agree for the reasons you said.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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So English as an official language is ethnocentrism but forcing English-only Americans and non-Spanish-speaking American immigrants to learn Spanish is not? Double standard noted.
The la raza fans think Spanish should be equal to English in the US even tho Spanish is just as "white" based. LOL
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:22 PM
 
Location: louisville
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No

Normally simple, I'll expound: 14th amendment. If bi-lingual, make it polylingual. Again, 14th amendment
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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No

Normally simple, I'll expound: 14th amendment. If bi-lingual, make it polylingual. Again, 14th amendment
I think we all deserve a little more explanation than the just citing an Amendment to the constitution. A little why, and wherefore would be at the very least appropriate. You don't have to write a brief just a little because would do nicely.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I think we all deserve a little more explanation than the just citing an Amendment to the constitution. A little why, and wherefore would be at the very least appropriate. You don't have to write a brief just a little because would do nicely.
Read the amendment, look at why it's been cited. It was a yes no question. I cite amendment 14 why I say no.

You asked nicely: 14th amendment is widely known as good for one, good for all. Our laws are also based off precedent. To be bilingual, next is trilingual, then... Ad infinitinum.

It's impractical in a polyglot country as ours to expand the official language in an incremental manner as that results in precedent.

As a note, I could care less about ones language. I'm just speaking practically and what our own history teaches us about changes... And the unintended consequence.

Further note: people in heavily populated Hispanic areas (like mine), will behoove themselves to become bilingual. Government should stay out

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Old 05-25-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The la raza fans think Spanish should be equal to English in the US even tho Spanish is just as "white" based. LOL
Nah, go back & read entry #207 in this thread. I don't know that la Raza - the political party? the ethnic movement? the political activists? - is pushing to make Spanish equal to English in the US. They might want to see both English & Spanish as official US languages - but I don't think that that is ever going to happen @ the federal level. It might be best to leave that indeterminate.


If we're talking about Mexican Spanish - no, it's not predominantly spoken by Caucasians in Mexico - because there aren't that many there - for the perfectly obvious reason that very few Spanish women went to Mexico during colonial times there, & consequently most of the Spanish had families by Native American women.
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Old 05-26-2016, 04:09 AM
 
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What ever happened to Esperanto -- the international language that everyone was supposed to learn?

I guess it got replaced by Ebonics -- judging from the way a lot of people talk nowadays.
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Old 05-26-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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No. English only. Tests after two years or deportation.
Comments like this make me think it would be beneficial to deport American born citizens.
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Old 05-26-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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Comments like this make me think it would be beneficial to deport American born citizens.

I know, what are Americans thinking expecting foreigners who decided to migrate to an English speaking country to learn English. Let's deport American citizens instead.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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The la raza fans think Spanish should be equal to English in the US even tho Spanish is just as "white" based. LOL

This is why things should stay the way they are. If we try to enforce English and make it official, somebody would get headstrong and try to make Spanish coofficial, which would serve to artificially keep it alive.

As it stands, Spanish is dying Fast. It is just an immigrant language. Most "hispanics" born and raised in the US are NOT proficient spanish speakers - if they speak Spanish at all.

This is not going to happen, even if LA Raza wants it to. Sure they may outnumber us someday, but they'll just be a bunch of English-speaking Mexicans.
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