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Old 05-25-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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Nowhere did they claim they wanted fraudulent contracts. Please post where they asked for that.
There were no fraudulent contracts, exactly as the federal court of appeals ruled 3-0.

F&F's problems stem from wanting to buy loans made to those with no/bad credit and other issues, and the use of their "automated underwriting" systems that eliminated the manual underwriting that would have approved 65% fewer loans due to too much risk.

I've posted the links proving that's EXACTLY what happened.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:32 PM
 
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There were no fraudulent contracts, exactly as the federal court of appeals ruled 3-0.

F&F's problems stem from wanting to buy loans made to those with no/bad credit and other issues, and the use of their "automated underwriting" systems that eliminated the manual underwriting that would have approved 65% fewer loans due to too much risk.

I've posted the links proving that's EXACTLY what happened.
Mozilo didn't pay his slap on the wrist fine because he was on the up and up.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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Mozilo didn't pay his slap on the wrist fine because he was on the up and up.
He also didn't go to jail, did he? Neither did any of the other loan originators.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Possibly, but it WASN'T fraud, as those were EXACTLY the loans the GSEs wanted to buy.
Read the ruling; your understanding is not what the Appeals Court ruled.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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They pay interest on the ~$2 Trillion worth of US Treasuries that were traded for those GSE MBS the Federal Reserve now has.
The Federal Reserve did not pay for the GSE MBS that they now hold by selling Treasuries. In fact the Federal Reserve at the same time they were buying the GSE MBS were buying even larger amounts of Treasuries.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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He also didn't go to jail, did he? Neither did any of the other loan originators.
NOBODY did....that was a major, major failing on the part of the Obama administration and everyone who for years claimed to support the same type of reforms he falsely claimed to be for.

Iceland isn't he only place that had a corrupt system.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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The Federal Reserve did not pay for the GSE MBS that they now hold by selling Treasuries. In fact the Federal Reserve at the same time they were buying the GSE MBS were buying even larger amounts of Treasuries.
The Federal Reserve can't actually buy squat as they don't produce squat.

They can only offer IOU's that will never be paid back.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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Read the ruling; your understanding is not what the Appeals Court ruled.
They indeed said NO FRAUD.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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The Federal Reserve did not pay for the GSE MBS that they now hold by selling Treasuries.
They did indeed use coupon swaps, so what was traded for the GSE MBS?
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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They did indeed use coupon swaps, so what was traded for the GSE MBS?
Here is a article on QE.

The Economist explains: What is quantitative easing? | The Economist

From the article.

To carry out QE central banks create money by buying securities, such as government bonds, from banks, with electronic cash that did not exist before.
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