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Old 06-10-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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One fundemental problem that I have with the United States is that, the states have too much power in regards to human rights. Human rights should be federally protected on every level. Economics, gun hunting licenses, infrastructure, yes, they can be autonomously state-run, but human rights should be entirely federal.

An example, say there is a discrimination case against women, they are being let go and recieve severances months before their anticipated pregnancy.

I don't believe the court case should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of Texas," it should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of the United States."

Who else agrees?

 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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BEWARE of the hidden propaganda in "human rights."
HUMAN RIGHTS - The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled, often held to include the right to life and liberty, freedom of thought and expression, and equality before the law. Human rights are "commonly understood as inalienable fundamental rights to which a person is inherently entitled simply because she or he is a human being." Human rights are thus conceived as universal (applicable everywhere) and egalitarian (the same for everyone).
...
Only humans have rights - unless you accept that inanimate objects have rights - and / or non-humans have rights. All men are born with rights endowed by their Creator, saith the Declaration of Independence. If you were not born a human, you were not endowed with rights that government was instituted to secure.
...

OKAY - BUT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice
❏ " Social justice is based on the concepts of human rights and equality and involves a greater degree of economic egalitarianism through progressive taxation, income redistribution, or even property redistribution. "
[] TRANSLATION:
Social justice imposes COMPULSORY labor for the benefit of another and EXPROPRIATION of your property for the benefit of another. That's "slavery via government" and "theft by government."
Best advice - stick with ENDOWED RIGHTS and beware the collectivists.

P.S. - pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, Americans have endowed rights government was instituted to secure. But, via consent, those rights are waived / surrendered in exchange for "constitutional rights" (privileges). We know this because mandatory civic duties void endowed rights. Any male citizen obligated to perform mandatory militia duty (train, fight, and die on command) has no "right to life nor liberty."
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by diallomacedo View Post
One fundemental problem that I have with the United States is that, the states have too much power in regards to human rights. Human rights should be federally protected on every level. Economics, gun hunting licenses, infrastructure, yes, they can be autonomously state-run, but human rights should be entirely federal.

An example, say there is a discrimination case against women, they are being let go and recieve severances months before their anticipated pregnancy.

I don't believe the court case should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of Texas," it should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of the United States."

Who else agrees?
Your example is not a human rights issue.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:11 AM
 
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One fundemental problem that I have with the United States is that, the states have too much power in regards to human rights. Human rights should be federally protected on every level. Economics, gun hunting licenses, infrastructure, yes, they can be autonomously state-run, but human rights should be entirely federal.

An example, say there is a discrimination case against women, they are being let go and recieve severances months before their anticipated pregnancy.

I don't believe the court case should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of Texas," it should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of the United States."

Who else agrees?
Our strength as a nation, our liberty, our way of life was founded on the principle of state government. If you don't like it LEAVE! Or by benefit of the doubt why don't you move to a nanny state like CA where you might feel more of your "human" rights are protected. Are you a minority? Why is it people flock to America and lambast our way of life when we are one of the most free, most protected people on the face of the Earth. Why don't you go to Saudi Arabia and whine about human rights..........or Myanmar, or Venezuela. Why come here or stay in America? If you are born here you must have been educated in public school system. Your beliefs are completely antithetical to everything this country stands for. I say take it one step further and have local governments wield even more power than state governments!
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Oh and how much more economic "egalitarianism" do you need? Blacks, Indians, Jews, and every other minority under the sun can come to America and experience more opportunity, wealth, and prosperity than anywhere else in the world. Our laws and justice system is more egalitarian than just about any place on Earth.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by diallomacedo View Post
One fundemental problem that I have with the United States is that, the states have too much power in regards to human rights. Human rights should be federally protected on every level. Economics, gun hunting licenses, infrastructure, yes, they can be autonomously state-run, but human rights should be entirely federal.

An example, say there is a discrimination case against women, they are being let go and recieve severances months before their anticipated pregnancy.

I don't believe the court case should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of Texas," it should be, "Lucy Becky et. al. vs. xyz corporation of the United States."

Who else agrees?

The less power the federal government has the better. Never cede to them what you can do yourself.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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Our strength as a nation, our liberty, our way of life was founded on the principle of state government. If you don't like it LEAVE! Or by benefit of the doubt why don't you move to a nanny state like CA where you might feel more of your "human" rights are protected. Are you a minority? Why is it people flock to America and lambast our way of life when we are one of the most free, most protected people on the face of the Earth. Why don't you go to Saudi Arabia and whine about human rights..........or Myanmar, or Venezuela. Why come here or stay in America? If you are born here you must have been educated in public school system. Your beliefs are completely antithetical to everything this country stands for. I say take it one step further and have local governments wield even more power than state governments!
That's dangerous. For the most part of history, the states have been on the inhumane side of debates, while the govt did things to keep the country from falling (most of the times, these were progressive actions). States can take care of economics and infrastructure, why is abortion a states issue? Why is housing discrimination a states issue? Why is health care a states issue? (Maybe the distribution of health care, but the budget no). All things that affect the livelihood of a citizen in the USA should be standardized. We can't have one state with school children sitting in jail over a playground fight and another state a kid getting in school suspension for bringing a gun to school. It's not right.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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BEWARE of the hidden propaganda in "human rights."
HUMAN RIGHTS - The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled, often held to include the right to life and liberty, freedom of thought and expression, and equality before the law. Human rights are "commonly understood as inalienable fundamental rights to which a person is inherently entitled simply because she or he is a human being." Human rights are thus conceived as universal (applicable everywhere) and egalitarian (the same for everyone).
...
Only humans have rights - unless you accept that inanimate objects have rights - and / or non-humans have rights. All men are born with rights endowed by their Creator, saith the Declaration of Independence. If you were not born a human, you were not endowed with rights that government was instituted to secure.
...

OKAY - BUT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice
❏ " Social justice is based on the concepts of human rights and equality and involves a greater degree of economic egalitarianism through progressive taxation, income redistribution, or even property redistribution. "
[] TRANSLATION:
Social justice imposes COMPULSORY labor for the benefit of another and EXPROPRIATION of your property for the benefit of another. That's "slavery via government" and "theft by government."
Best advice - stick with ENDOWED RIGHTS and beware the collectivists.

P.S. - pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, Americans have endowed rights government was instituted to secure. But, via consent, those rights are waived / surrendered in exchange for "constitutional rights" (privileges). We know this because mandatory civic duties void endowed rights. Any male citizen obligated to perform mandatory militia duty (train, fight, and die on command) has no "right to life nor liberty."
Smart.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Your example is not a human rights issue.
Pregnancy and cutting off someone's income isn't a human right? If anything it definitely overlaps.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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The less power the federal government has the better. Never cede to them what you can do yourself.
You sure, it seems that it's the states reluctant to change for the better.
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