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Old 07-21-2016, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust View Post
I think that person both the cop and the POS who called 911 should be both be arrested (the latter for calling the police unnecessarily), and sued by the victim.
How did the 911 caller conclude that he had a gun, why would police shoot someone laying on his back with both hands up, much explaining on this one.

 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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Yes, and when has there been a time when some Blacks didn't think the worst of LEOs (or Whites)?

Yes, it has been said repeatedly, but it needs to be said again: People should stop judging others based on occupation or skin color because that is just so stupid and wrong. Some people are "bad" and some people are "good", but that is much more a result of what is on the inside than what is on the outside.

(The only reason I say "more" is because I think it is easier to be "good" if one has been privileged in life and not been victimized and/or discriminated against, whereas I think it is easier to be "bad" if the foregoing was not true.)
I know not all policemen are bad. One reason I said "some officers". There have been many who look at Blacks with fear. My point is that the relationship between LEOs and Blacks has been quite bad throughout history. I can't really think of a time in U.S. history when there was alot of racial harmony.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I agree with all but the bolded part.


You don't have to be privileged to be a good person. Many underprivileged people are good. That is a moral value that one must hold on to. The responsibility of teaching moral values comes from the home and the parents. You can make a conscious effort to do good despite poor circumstances. You can turn the other cheek at any time. By saying that those who are discriminated against have a harder time recognizing good is giving those who choose not to be good a crutch and something to blame their lack of judgment on. It also admonishes any responsibility or accountability. We all get that feeling of guilt before doing something we know might be wrong. The difference is whether or not we listen to it.


I know plenty of bad people who came from privilege, and many good people who were poor. Choosing to hate (yes, it is a conscious choice and is much more difficult to hold onto than love) allows us to ignore our moral compass.
Just to clarify, I said it was easier to be good if . . . , I did not say that it was impossible or even difficult to be good if one did not have advantages. I absolutely agree that there are many very good people who have been horribly mistreated in life, just as there are many very bad people who had every advantage.

I do agree with everything you said above, btw.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Some of us comply and STILL get shot. This isn't the first time this has happened; we listen to orders and pay for it with a bullet.

Maybe we should just be completely still. Maybe that would help.

SMDH.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Yeah, you're going to have to explain that one to me. Pretty sure Unsettomati just laid out what happened.
Always about race If I must~ White cop and brown cop show up.. Black guy and brown big kid in street. Stupid cop shoots black guy.. which cop fired shots? I don't know. Does it matter? Yes. If it was the darker cop would it matter less? No. TOOO quick to throw the :"race" into Everything. Total f*(&# up by the offending officer as far as I can tell. Apparently cop that shot doesn't know why he pulled trigger..
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: louisville
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isn't it time to disband the fbi, tsa, atf and most police departments?
yep.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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Both the mayor and police chief of North Miami are black.

Is this more black on black violence?
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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I think the officer knew what he was doing. I think he knew he was wrong. In my opinion, his mentality could have been "kill or be killed", "shoot now, ask questions later". He said he didn't know why. I think he knew why he did it, but won't say. My theory is this. There are some people who think in terms of "whatever helps me live another day". I do think that in his mind, that man was a threat, and he might have felt better with that man dead. To him, it could have been "kill or be killed". This is not a rant at law enforcement. This is about this individual. There are other individuals, inside and outside of law enforcement, who think like this. Just my theory.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by green_mariner View Post
I know not all policemen are bad. One reason I said "some officers". There have been many who look at Blacks with fear. My point is that the relationship between LEOs and Blacks has been quite bad throughout history. I can't really think of a time in U.S. history when there was alot of racial harmony.
Quoted for truth. There has never been a period in this country when Blacks and LEOs have gotten along nicely, for the most part.
 
Old 07-21-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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The other side of that coin is that police departments MUST stop defending bad cops, and start admitting when one of their own does something wrong.

THAT, to me, is the real root cause of all the tension and fear much of the public feels. I mean, when cops are being taped beating a man for no reason, go to trial, and are found not guilty of anything, what message does that convey? It creates fear and paranoia in the general population.
Agree - - and this goes back to the 70s/Serpico and I'm sure well before that as well.

Body cameras were a step towards transparency - - more would get people to trust the police more.
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