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Old 08-07-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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...........as proud father Mike Pence looked on

Why is it that Trump and many Republicans blame Hillary for the Iraq War and ignore that a super majority of Republicans in the House and Senated voted for it?
For the same reason you are attempting to defend Hillary. Both should stop it.

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Why is it Trump has chosen to surround himself with politicians who have obvious voting records supporting things, Trump claims to oppose?

Why is it some choose to ignore that the Bush Admin and Iraq agreed to a withdrawal of all troops ( leave the war toys behind) by year and 2011 and Iraq was not open to an extention.

( I will not be voting for Hillary or Trump)
For the same reason you ignore that we are still there despite this agreement. Your politics trump everything including decency and common sense.
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Old 08-07-2016, 12:06 PM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 27 days ago)
 
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I personally am happy to see that some in the Muslim community have stepped up and put up this billboard - they don't all interpret the Koran the same way. As happy as I am to see this - I still agree with Trump on putting a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US until they can be vetted properly.

Now Obama claimed the other day they went through 4/5 steps before being admitted - my question is how long is the vetting process - is it done once they reach our shores or before they leave their native land - if done here - who's paying for their stay while the vetting process is going on and for those without documentation are they even allowed on the planes? Are these the same vetting processes that the San Bernadino killer went though or have they changed so that won't happen again?
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Old 08-07-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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For the same reason you are attempting to defend Hillary. Both should stop it.



For the same reason you ignore that we are still there despite this agreement. Your politics trump everything including decency and common sense.
I am partisan agnostic and will not vote for Trump or Hillary.

The majority of primary voters chose Trump and Hillary and did so in spite of or because they expect the next POTUS to " do something" to end global terrorism.

I am not one of them- just pointing out a hypocracy of blaming Hillary for Iraq while ignoring Pence and the super majority of Republicans who favored it.
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Old 08-07-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I personally am happy to see that some in the Muslim community have stepped up and put up this billboard - they don't all interpret the Koran the same way. As happy as I am to see this - I still agree with Trump on putting a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US until they can be vetted properly.

Now Obama claimed the other day they went through 4/5 steps before being admitted - my question is how long is the vetting process - is it done once they reach our shores or before they leave their native land - if done here - who's paying for their stay while the vetting process is going on and for those without documentation are they even allowed on the planes? Are these the same vetting processes that the San Bernadino killer went though or have they changed so that won't happen again?
After WW2 there were 11-20 million displaced persons throughout Europe and thousands of camps. Initially, the camps did not segregate Jews from Nazi refugees. Towns people closest to these camps reported rapes and thefts by refugees. Occupants of the camps reported similar inside the camps. No one had documentation.

It took a decade to eventually resettle the masses. Canads and the US had quotas and gave priority to families. There were mass group marriages in refugee camps as people attempted to qualify. From time to time, Canada and the US favored some European nationalities over others. Suddenly, everyone was Polish or whatever the favored nationality of the month was.

Those who resettled in Canads and the US immediately got busy creating an anchor baby to get priority for permanent residency and eventually citizenship.

The UN, for what it's worth, claims the current number of displaced global people is now at record highs of 65 million, primarily due to civil wars and climate.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Why are these moderates not arming up and fighting? Instead the board a plane for unknown territory, while our soldiers get killed and do the fighting. All of these men should be staying and fighting against Islam in their country. This really is not the job of the USA!


Anyone can put up a billboard to make the left fell fuzzy and warm.
The billboard was designed and paid for by Americans.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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" ISIS Sucks' Billboard Campaign in Chicago "

Okay, ISIS does suck, can't argue with that. F ISIS carries more punch though, that's what I would have painted.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Why are these moderates not arming up and fighting? Instead the board a plane for unknown territory, while our soldiers get killed and do the fighting. All of these men should be staying and fighting against Islam in their country. This really is not the job of the USA!
Some of our soldiers ARE muslims. And some of those muslim soldiers are dying in the fight against ISIS.


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Anyone can put up a billboard to make the left fell fuzzy and warm.
True, anyone can put up a billboard. But these people DID put up a billboard, saying clearly what they think of ISIS. Which is a lot like what you think of ISIS.

I don't think all muslims are evil any more than I think all christians are evil. So sue me.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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" ISIS Sucks' Billboard Campaign in Chicago "

Okay, ISIS does suck, can't argue with that. F ISIS carries more punch though, that's what I would have painted.
Well, I'd be good with that too. But if the billboard company won't put up a word like that - and most won't - 'ISIS sucks' does the job.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:18 PM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 27 days ago)
 
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After WW2 there were 11-20 million displaced persons throughout Europe and thousands of camps. Initially, the camps did not segregate Jews from Nazi refugees. Towns people closest to these camps reported rapes and thefts by refugees. Occupants of the camps reported similar inside the camps. No one had documentation.

It took a decade to eventually resettle the masses. Canads and the US had quotas and gave priority to families. There were mass group marriages in refugee camps as people attempted to qualify. From time to time, Canada and the US favored some European nationalities over others. Suddenly, everyone was Polish or whatever the favored nationality of the month was.

Those who resettled in Canads and the US immediately got busy creating an anchor baby to get priority for permanent residency and eventually citizenship.

The UN, for what it's worth, claims the current number of displaced global people is now at record highs of 65 million, primarily due to civil wars and climate.
I appreciate the info but it doesn't answer my questions.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Odd......people complain that Muslims are not speaking out and when they do the complaints only bounce around like a pinball.

Well, not really odd, as it's pretty typical.




Odd that they are speaking out and 15 years later.................


Where the heck have they been all of this time?
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