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Old 09-14-2016, 08:27 PM
 
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Sickening, yet another example of judicial stupidity in this country. Unbelievable.

http://ottumwaradio.com/grooms-wont-see-prison-time/

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An Ottumwa teen who plead guilty to raping a child will not serve any time in prison.
Kraigen Grooms, 19 was sentenced Monday by Judge Randy Degeest in the Wapello County Courthouse to served a 10 year suspended prison sentence after pleading guilty to one count of Engaging in a lascivious act with a child.

Grooms was released from jail following his guilty plea earlier this summer. He has been subject to GPS monitoring since his release.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Sickening, yet another example of judicial stupidity in this country. Unbelievable.

http://ottumwaradio.com/grooms-wont-see-prison-time/
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Was this minor "child" 17 and 3 months from her 18th birthday?
I had a dad try that on my when I was 18 and she was 17
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Was this minor "child" 17 and 3 months from her 18th birthday?
I had a dad try that on my when I was 18 and she was 17
No. This kid filmed himself raping a baby and was planning to rape more very young children. Tim Caya: One Man Behind Kraigen Grooms' Arrest
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:12 PM
 
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Was this minor "child" 17 and 3 months from her 18th birthday?
I had a dad try that on my when I was 18 and she was 17
No, she wasn't 17. She was 2.

Judge Spares Iowa teen Who Raped Toddler Girl on a Livestream - Current News & Events - OneHallyu

Why the OP thought that detail needn't be shared is beyond me, but now you know.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:17 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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If I was a relative of the victim, there is no way on this earth that 'young man' would ever become an old man. Honest to God.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:29 PM
 
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A far as I can tell he did spend a couple of years in a juvenile detention center though, he was 16 when he commited the crime.
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:01 AM
 
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A far as I can tell he did spend a couple of years in a juvenile detention center though, he was 16 when he commited the crime.
Plenty old enough to know better! He needs to do a lot more. You can never pay back that kind of crime. Poor baby.
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:16 AM
 
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Plenty old enough to know better! He needs to do a lot more. You can never pay back that kind of crime. Poor baby.
Do you even know what the kid actually did or what the judges reasoning was? I haven't been able to find any specifics online. I will wait to pass judgement until I know.
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:29 AM
 
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It seems to me that the article is mistaken. The DA offered him a plea deal, they must have either not wanted to go through with a trial or didn't know if they would get a conviction due to lack of evidence or other problems. That isn't the judge's fault. He plead guilty to "Lascivious acts with a child". In Iowa, this is defined as "if a person 16 or over permits or causes a child to fondle or touch the person’s genitals or pubes." Or "if a person 16 or over fondles or touches the pubes or genitals of a child." This comes with a charge of up to 5 years in prison. This is the definition that seems relevant to this case. https://www.ageofconsent.net/laws/io...s-with-a-child

Given that Kraigen Grooms was 16 at the time, a minor and at the lower limit for these charges, as well as the fact that he plead guilty to the charges, it doesn't seem that unreasonable for him to serve 2 years instead of 5.
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