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Old 09-23-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Just curious. Do you have a car and auto insurance?

I can choose to not have a car
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Can I just get my old healthcare plan back? The one I was promised that I could keep?
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I can choose to not have a car
GMAFB~~ Comparing HC to owning a car is redicuolous..considering HC cost must be paid and Car payments don't~~

Man~~ It's quite obvious..many posting about such things..have no idea on what they're entitled to...HC is a guantantee ( especially life-threatening situations)..which means IF you don't pay Insurance >>TAXPAYERS DO!!

IF you buy a care ..Taxpayer's DO not pay for your costs to purchase much less costs to maintain it ...and oh, yes..Taxpayer's are NOT responsible for damages caused your car causes either unless your car injures someone that doesn't have HC Insurance.!!

Get a grip
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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The IRS will be using confidential information, it's privacy which is protected by law to identify those who paid the penalty and then use that confidential information to send letters to them to "encourage" them to purchase health insurance. Not only that, tax payers will fund this "letter mailing campaign". Even if you don't agree that it is harassment, it's not ok.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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Did you pay the tax penalty or get an exemption due to not carrying health insurance? If so you could be among the 20 million Americans who will be getting a letter in the mail soon from the IRS "encouraging" (scaring) you to buy health insurance. Forbes Welcome

This seems like a very heavy handed and inappropriate move via the government in order to try and force people to buy a product from a private corporation that they may not even be able to afford.

What do you think?
Buy health insurance or pay the fine. Your choice. It may be cheaper for you to just pay the fine if you are young and healthy. The issue arises when you get sick without insurance. Let's say you get cancer and it costs $500,000 to treat. The taxpayer is then responsible for your healthcare costs after all your assets are seized. SO, there is a risk. Can you get a job that offers insurance? Good luck!!!
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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Buy health insurance or pay the fine. Your choice. It may be cheaper for you to just pay the fine if you are young and healthy. The issue arises when you get sick without insurance. Let's say you get cancer and it costs $500,000 to treat. The taxpayer is then responsible for your healthcare costs after all your assets are seized. SO, there is a risk. Can you get a job that offers insurance? Good luck!!!
Some people couldn't afford health insurance so they paid the fine. This thread is about how those who followed the law by paying the fine are now being targeted by the IRS. The IRS is using confidential information that is protected by law to track them down and send them letters "encouraging" them to purchase health insurance. It's a pretty big overreach. You get to pay for this campaign with your tax dollars. Are you ok with that? What do you think about the misuse of confidential tax payer info being misused? Good? Bad?
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Are the letters going out before the election?
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:27 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Sounds like your friend is embellishing a tad or misimformed.

His out of pocket is capped at $6850/ year and that includes the deductible.

According to the non-profit Kaiser Institute that tracks all things healthcare, the average premium increase is about 4%.

70% is hyperbole.

What city/ state does this friend live in?

Wrong!

It all depends on the area you live in but the average increase will be 9% and as high as 27%.

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CHANGES IN THE LOWEST-COST SILVER PLANS
Across the 17 cities we examined, the premium for the lowest-cost silver plan is increasing by a weighted average of 9% in 2017, though changes vary geographically ranging from a decrease of 14% in Providence, Rhode Island, to an increase of 27% in Nashville, Tennessee.

Analysis of 2017 Premium Changes and Insurer Participation in the Affordable Care Act


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Are the letters going out before the election?
I read somewhere they are going out either the last week of Oct. - first week of Nov.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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Some people couldn't afford health insurance so they paid the fine. This thread is about how those who followed the law by paying the fine are now being targeted by the IRS. The IRS is using confidential information that is protected by law to track them down and send them letters "encouraging" them to purchase health insurance. It's a pretty big overreach. You get to pay for this campaign with your tax dollars. Are you ok with that? What do you think about the misuse of confidential tax payer info being misused? Good? Bad?
Wait, the IRS knows who paid the fine because the taxpayer who did not have health insurance checked the box on their form indicating that they did not have health insurance. That is reported to the IRS who is now using that info to encourage people to buy health insurance b/c the fine is going up again this year. I don't know where you are reading that the IRS found this confidential info when it is info that the taxpayer themselves provided to the IRS???

If people are too poor to pay for insurance then they can apply for Medicare or they can get discounts depending on income. But, I can see in some cases where it would be cheaper to just pay the fine and hope you don't get sick or hit by car. It's a shame that we are the only developed country where healthcare is NOT a given. THAT is the real issue here. To me at least!
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: FL
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That's what I thought. It's what I have always heard, and Rush has always said. Rush is right again.
Rush was leaving the country if Obamacare passed. Why is he still here after all these years?
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