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Old 09-28-2016, 03:29 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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George W. Bush got us into the worst economic mess in decades. During the last few months of his presidency we were losing seven hundred thousand jobs a month. He couldn't even testify before Congress without Cheney's assistance.

McCain had the darling of the Tea party as his VP candidate. When interviewed Palin could not demonstrate a command of the issues. There was one report that she didn't even know what the Fed was. McCain was old and Palin would have been next in line.

Romney was another rich mans son. Usually the son's talent and drive don't match the father's. I won't however put him in the same class as Bush and Palin. We can trust that the middle class would not have done well with Romney.

Now we have Trump running. You Republicans must admit that his performance was **** poor the other night. He's nothing but a slick salesman with a couple of good ideas about trade but nothing more than that.

It's time for you to think about who you are making the most powerful person on Earth. FOX, Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh shouldn't be doing your thinking for you. It's very important that you think for yourselves and do some independent research on these people who you choose to lead. The jury is no longer out on your poor choices for President and Vice President.


You know man, you are right. The republican party has put up some **** poor candidates , who often don't know how to say things correctly. Then again, Clinton isn't a shining candidate either.


However I find amusement when you say "they shouldn't be doing the thinking for you" because liberal progressive policy is based on just that, making decisions for people and controlling them, be it what they say, what they eat, what guns to own or not, what car to drive, how you draw and spend your retirement, what you keep out of your paycheck and so on and so on......


so c'mon man, don't be the pot that calls the kettle black...
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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George W. Bush got us into the worst economic mess in decades. During the last few months of his presidency we were losing seven hundred thousand jobs a month. He couldn't even testify before Congress without Cheney's assistance.

McCain had the darling of the Tea party as his VP candidate. When interviewed Palin could not demonstrate a command of the issues. There was one report that she didn't even know what the Fed was. McCain was old and Palin would have been next in line.

Romney was another rich mans son. Usually the son's talent and drive don't match the father's. I won't however put him in the same class as Bush and Palin. We can trust that the middle class would not have done well with Romney.

Now we have Trump running. You Republicans must admit that his performance was **** poor the other night. He's nothing but a slick salesman with a couple of good ideas about trade but nothing more than that.

It's time for you to think about who you are making the most powerful person on Earth. FOX, Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh shouldn't be doing your thinking for you. It's very important that you think for yourselves and do some independent research on these people who you choose to lead. The jury is no longer out on your poor choices for President and Vice President.
You will never know if McCain, Romney or Trump would have made an competent president, because they were never elected president. Simply assuming they'd be incompetent cuz you don't like them, does make them so.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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It's time for you to think about who you are making the most powerful person on Earth..


Just one more thing, I don't vote so I can make the president the most powerful person on Earth, I vote so the person elected will uphold our freedom so we can be empowered for ourselves.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:40 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So someone that has a history of their enemies ending up dead, and has committed multiple known and proven felonies is the lesser evil than someone who says a few things you do not like?

Please list dates of indictments/convictions.

Or is the "known and proven" merely imaginary?
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Democrats didnt purge blue dogs.


In fact, Blue dogs won and still do win primaries all the time. Blue dogs lost general elections to far right wing Republicans.

So if you want to attack the disappearance of blue dogs, attack Republicans, not Dems.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
Yeah, they did. the DNC explicitly refused to provide campaign funding for Blue Dogs. I saw 3 of them defunded in favor of kook Progressives in the state I used to live in. That happened.

And from the link you provided:

"Blue Dog membership was nearly cut in half by the 2010 election"

"Blue Dog membership was nearly cut in half again for the 113th Congress."

The DNC refused to fund most of them in favor of their deranged Progressive counterparts. Can't win without cash.


Stop pretending the Democratic Party hasn't been taken over by lunatic Progressives. It has.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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George W. Bush got us into the worst economic mess in decades. During the last few months of his presidency we were losing seven hundred thousand jobs a month. He couldn't even testify before Congress without Cheney's assistance.

McCain had the darling of the Tea party as his VP candidate. When interviewed Palin could not demonstrate a command of the issues. There was one report that she didn't even know what the Fed was. McCain was old and Palin would have been next in line.

Romney was another rich mans son. Usually the son's talent and drive don't match the father's. I won't however put him in the same class as Bush and Palin. We can trust that the middle class would not have done well with Romney.

Now we have Trump running. You Republicans must admit that his performance was **** poor the other night. He's nothing but a slick salesman with a couple of good ideas about trade but nothing more than that.

It's time for you to think about who you are making the most powerful person on Earth. FOX, Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh shouldn't be doing your thinking for you. It's very important that you think for yourselves and do some independent research on these people who you choose to lead. The jury is no longer out on your poor choices for President and Vice President.
The economy under Bush was better then now and because of the pro-construction policies there was no housing shortage.

The economy only tanked a few months before President Bush term was up. All and all, the economy was very good under most of the Bush administration.

The Unemployment Rate bottomed out at 4.4% in 2006 under Bush. The lowest under Obama is 4.7% unemployment.

I think the Democrats would do better if they didn't come across as elitest, pretentious and entitled.

Democrats come across as condescending towards suburban and rural Americans. They speak in intellectual tones that are meant to belittle average people with normal vocabularies.

Bernie Sanders despite his leftist tone at least made some good statements during his campaign that many could resonate with.

Clinton and many of the Democrats lately are doing nothing more then saying things and implementing policies to appease all at a cost of the long term future of the country.

Clinton, Obama and Yellen are throwing borrowed money at everything and anything they can to appease as many they can.

Clinton also spends most of the little stamina she has fundraising with the same industry that she denounces on the campaign trail.

I am not voting for Trump but at least despite all his fame and fortune he has a message that resonate with middle America.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Fort Benton, MT
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Trump is extremely competent, where he needs to be. Trade and finance. There isn't a another person in government right now with his experience, and proven track record of amassing wealth, building companies, and taking advantage of every LEGAL maneuver possible to help himself along the way.


Don't hate the players, hate the game.


Clinton looked like a fool trying to chastise Trump for filing bankruptcy, or not paying taxes. That just shows how smart he is. Only an idiot would let the government take in any more taxes than they are LEGALLY allowed to take. If Clinton had a problem with it, she could outlaw bankruptcy, or institute a flat tax. Guess what, she doesn't want to do that because it BENEFITS HER to have those tax deductions as well. Trump called it correct when he said that all she is, is another CAREER politician that has done absolutely nothing in the last 30 years to fix anything, but she is certainly willing to lie and promise the moon to get elected. Clinton is promising to raise taxes, make taxpayers pay for college, and keep the same programs in place that have companies relocating to other countries, taking our jobs with them.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Because she doesnt lie or is as corrupt as much as the Trump campaign makes it appear, shes just like any politician in that regard, the Trump campaign has successfully waged a smear campaign and character assassination of the woman and it seems to have worked to garner the Support Trump now has.
Curious Trump would paint his opponent as a liar when he is the master of the art
2015 Lie of the Year: the campaign misstatements of Donald Trump | PolitiFact


Also lets look at the people buying the Trump BS =


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTzpI8_nqk

Give me a break, I don't nee the Trump campaign to tell me Hillary is corrupt. I have been an adult all through her reign of corruptness long before there even was a Trump Campaign.


Just because you were probably in diapers (when the rest of us who remember were voting age) means that we don't have to read or watch a video about something that we lived through!


We can also come up with twice as many clueless Hillary supporters on video! There are many people that are completely uninformed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaUgFjebA5U

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Old 09-28-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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The fact is that even if Kasich had been nominated, the left-wingers and their minions in the press would have made him out to be a fire-breathing neo-fascist.
Just like when right wingers and their minions made Obama out to be a socialist/communist?
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Your profile says that you are a software engineer. You should know what unpaid overtime is all about. Did you know that Obama issued an executive order to raise the overtime threshold to 47K from 23K? Originally he wanted it to be 53K.

Did you know that Bush lowered taxes and got us into two wars at the same time. That action by Bush is unprecedented. The advice given to Bush by his Secretary of the Treasury and Alan Greenspan was to protect the budget surplus. The advice was ignored by Bush and Cheney.

Did you know that during the Bush administration there was an effort to doc salaried employees for taking time off while not paying them OT?

It's almost October and the economy has been making progress for years. Obama has presided over a steady growth in the economy with no economic calamity looming.

Perhaps the laugh is on you for your failure to research these issues.

Yeah, I'm aware of the OT issue.

And yes, I'm aware of Bush's actions.

And lastly... the economy is on it's knees and has been for years. Anemic GDP and a Fed terrified to raise interest rates.

It is YOU who is unaware... "no economic calamity looming"... LOL! Several bubbles are poised to burst. The derivative bubble in Germany is enough to make your head explode... but you seem unaware of that. But keep getting your news from People magazine.
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