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Old 10-09-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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I propose we send all Globalists to North Korea
It would be a real hoot
Investment like water flows towards places with the least resistance. The more investment a country attracts, the more propsper it becomes. For a long time, US attracts the most investment. Do you want those investment to go somewhere else?
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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If you want that, nice place called North Korea would fit you very well as everyone regardless who they are get exactly the same thing.
I think I am entitled to my own country before people who don't even try to move in here (they are just buying land, they aren't immigrating).

People make different income levels, which means different types of houses being built. I'll probably never own a mansion, even though I want one. But there will be AMERICAN CITIZENS who will be able to regardless.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:30 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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People can invest in other ways that do not hurt the natives and citizens of the area.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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People can invest in other ways that do not hurt the natives and citizens of the area.
Plenty of Americans benefit from housing bubbles!

No investment would benefit everyone because every investment is to benefit one kind of people - the investors!!!
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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I think I am entitled to my own country before people who don't even try to move in here (they are just buying land, they aren't immigrating).

People make different income levels, which means different types of houses being built. I'll probably never own a mansion, even though I want one. But there will be AMERICAN CITIZENS who will be able to regardless.
LOL! You are entitled to live in this country and that is all! You are NOT entitled to your country. You are entitled to what you earn and what your parents leave you!
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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LOL! You are entitled to live in this country and that is all! You are NOT entitled to your country. You are entitled to what you earn and what your parents leave you!
I'm starting to think you're trolling.

I'm an American citizen, born and raised, my family has been here since just before the Civil War in this country. My family fought for the Union and many subsequent wars after that. I shouldn't have to be a doctor to be able to afford a flipping house in the area that I work. That's not what this country is about. I'm not asking for a mansion but I am asking for a safe place to live near the place I work.

But you apparently think rich foreigners are more entitled to own land than an actual American citizen. Are you one of these rich foreigners is that why you are so upset?

Your treatment of rich over everyone else is why this country is going to sh*t with the middle class losing more and more of their spending power while the 1% is hogging it all.

Not everyone can make rich wages, that's not how the economy works. Not all of us physically can afford 1 million+ homes, some of us will be able to afford up to a million, up to 500k, up to 250k, this is what creates the economic stratification we need for this country to work. This "rich vs. poor" mantra you are supporting by not giving "lesser off" Americans a chance to a good life is again, why this country is beginning to go to sh*t. I bet you support the TPP too.
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Old 10-09-2016, 11:08 PM
 
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I'm an American citizen, born and raised, my family has been here since just before the Civil War in this country. My family fought for the Union and many subsequent wars after that. I shouldn't have to be a doctor to be able to afford a flipping house in the area that I work. That's not what this country is about. I'm not asking for a mansion but I am asking for a safe place to live near the place I work.

But you apparently think rich foreigners are more entitled to own land than an actual American citizen. Are you one of these rich foreigners is that why you are so upset?

Your treatment of rich over everyone else is why this country is going to sh*t with the middle class losing more and more of their spending power while the 1% is hogging it all.

Not everyone can make rich wages, that's not how the economy works. Not all of us physically can afford 1 million+ homes, some of us will be able to afford up to a million, up to 500k, up to 250k, this is what creates the economic stratification we need for this country to work. This "rich vs. poor" mantra you are supporting by not giving "lesser off" Americans a chance to a good life is again, why this country is beginning to go to sh*t. I bet you support the TPP too.
I agree with your sentiments as a fellow "old stock" American although conservative. I just don't understand why you are a left-winger, and I probably don't want to know.
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Old 10-09-2016, 11:16 PM
 
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I agree with your sentiments as a fellow "old stock" American although conservative. I just don't understand why you are a left-winger, and I probably don't want to know.
Americans first. Always.

I don't think you understand what a leftist means. It means economics and trade being restricted/controlled by the government or the people (not corporations), which would include introducing a tax on foreigners to protect Americans. Anyone free market would oppose this like lifeexplorer is saying. Imposing a tax like this, by the government, to influence behavior to protect consumers (us Americans in this case) from predatory/dangerous habits (foreigners raising COL beyond belief in a few key areas) is hands down a leftist ideal.

Free market means supporting things like the TPP and not taxes like this. A controlled market means otherwise. Sanders, a democratic socialist, would have approved such a tax and was against the TPP because he claimed it hurt Americans. You might be further left than you think. This is partially why us ex-Berners would rather have Trump than Clinton because he is against the TPP, though the whole sexual harassment thing ruined that.

You'll notice left-leaning countries like Canada and parts of Europe have introduced this tax. Tell me are they conservative?
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Old 10-10-2016, 01:05 AM
 
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Bernie was also for big government, high taxation and regulation, open borders to immigration, "diversity" and forced equality and socialism all which I'm not for. He also played the race card and that's a non-starter for me. Leftist today are not like FDR socialism.

I'm not left on economics although maybe we could find common ground on Americans first and being pro-middle class. I consider myself more paleo-conservative and it's the neo-conservatives who have moved left to classical liberalism/libertarian on economics. At one time conservatives supported tariffs and the federal government was funded to a surplus by tariffs before there was an income tax.
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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I'm starting to think you're trolling.

I'm an American citizen, born and raised, my family has been here since just before the Civil War in this country. My family fought for the Union and many subsequent wars after that. I shouldn't have to be a doctor to be able to afford a flipping house in the area that I work. That's not what this country is about. I'm not asking for a mansion but I am asking for a safe place to live near the place I work.

But you apparently think rich foreigners are more entitled to own land than an actual American citizen. Are you one of these rich foreigners is that why you are so upset?

Your treatment of rich over everyone else is why this country is going to sh*t with the middle class losing more and more of their spending power while the 1% is hogging it all.

Not everyone can make rich wages, that's not how the economy works. Not all of us physically can afford 1 million+ homes, some of us will be able to afford up to a million, up to 500k, up to 250k, this is what creates the economic stratification we need for this country to work. This "rich vs. poor" mantra you are supporting by not giving "lesser off" Americans a chance to a good life is again, why this country is beginning to go to sh*t. I bet you support the TPP too.
You may be an American citizen but you are NOT American! Americans fought, bled and died to fend off the "ideals" you are supporting - communism. Our country was built upon the ideal that we protect individual liberty, that is your person, properties and your paper. Are people within the borders of America not entitled to the same constitutional protection? The court, our laws and I disagree with you!

As for free trade, America was built upon free trade.
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