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Old 04-03-2014, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Many 'Overseas Chinese' in Southeast Asia seem to play up being 'Chinese', or at least identify as such, even if they can't speak Mandarin or other Chinese languages, yet I'm curious as to the attitude of Chinese nationals towards these people, say like me, who of course weren't born in China and don't speak the language. One of my Chinese friends said I wasn't Chinese, or not in the real sense, maybe as much as many of those 'guidos' in America are Italian. I mean at one point does not cease being 'ethnically Chinese' or 'ethnically Han'? How would they view say the Chinese Thai or Thai Chinese? As being Chinese who have been assimilated or no longer Chinese? What about the Dai themselves, do the Chinese view them as a Chinese people?

 
Old 04-03-2014, 02:33 AM
 
Location: singapore
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If you ask me for my opinion, I would say Chinese descent who can't speak Chinese are not Chinese to me.. Period
 
Old 04-03-2014, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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If you are Chinese descent but you are not Chinese National and do not even speak the language then better recognize your nationality first or the place where you were raised and that you were not raised as Chinese. But it's up to you if you still recognized yourself as Chinese because by blood or your heritage you can still claim and recognize if your parents are originally from China.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Woodbridge, VA
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If you ask me for my opinion, I would say Chinese descent who can't speak Chinese are not Chinese to me.. Period
what if you're a chinese born in china but you're adopted to a non chinese speaking family?
 
Old 04-03-2014, 04:53 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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Many 'Overseas Chinese' in Southeast Asia seem to play up being 'Chinese', or at least identify as such, even if they can't speak Mandarin or other Chinese languages, yet I'm curious as to the attitude of Chinese nationals towards these people, say like me, who of course weren't born in China and don't speak the language. One of my Chinese friends said I wasn't Chinese, or not in the real sense, maybe as much as many of those 'guidos' in America are Italian. I mean at one point does not cease being 'ethnically Chinese' or 'ethnically Han'? How would they view say the Chinese Thai or Thai Chinese? As being Chinese who have been assimilated or no longer Chinese? What about the Dai themselves, do the Chinese view them as a Chinese people?
your case as chinese offspring from generation to generation, same much like what was experienced in chinese in Indonesia. even they do not have identity as chinese .
now many Indos chinese generations now start learning mandarin, but it does not allow them to be smart to speak mandarin. In Jakarta when you go to a place that has a significant place Chinese , almost all of them speak Indonesian and Jakarta language , except that they comes from Sumatra,Bangka and kalimantan ( borneo ) some of them still speak the local language of china.

Oh Oh Oh ! when they go to China ,people there will assume they "Indonesians" are not Han Chinese.

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Old 04-03-2014, 05:23 AM
 
Location: singapore
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what if you're a chinese born in china but you're adopted to a non chinese speaking family?
To me still not considered chinese... Other people's opinion may differ but that's what i think
 
Old 04-03-2014, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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If you ask me for my opinion, I would say Chinese descent who can't speak Chinese are not Chinese to me.. Period
So you don't consider me Chinese?
 
Old 04-03-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Woodbridge, VA
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To me still not considered chinese... Other people's opinion may differ but that's what i think
not hating but do you know how stupid that sounds?
then what about the uyghur people that do not speak mandarin or any other han chinese language?
if the han chinese cannot accept them as chinese either then they should just let them have their own country, tibetian as well and other non han chinese minorities
 
Old 04-03-2014, 05:38 AM
 
Location: singapore
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So you don't consider me Chinese?
Nope...
 
Old 04-03-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: singapore
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not hating but do you know how stupid that sounds?
then what about the uyghur people that do not speak mandarin or any other han chinese language?
if the han chinese cannot accept them as chinese either then they should just let them have their own country, tibetian as well and other non han chinese minorities
That's just what i think..

I dont bother about the uyghur and i dont care if they become independant and rule themselves..
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