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Old 10-16-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Do you really think that the average Millennial with a liberal arts degree working at Starbucks in a big city is going to move to Dayton, OH for a $50/hr blue collar job?
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:05 AM
 
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"If you build it, they will come"

Don't let the naysayers stop the movement.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Do you really think that the average Millennial with a liberal arts degree working at Starbucks in a big city is going to move to Dayton, OH for a $50/hr blue collar job?
Yes they will. $50/hr is a lot of money to most people.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Make the hourly rate more realistic. Even if it's your loaded rate at $50/hour that's still high.

My answer, after teaching for over thirty years is no. Partly due to parental influence. You haven't lived until a parent begs you to write a college recommendation for their kid who can't spell Bob unless you spot him the Bs.

And don't dare recommend some sort of vocational training.

In some cases you'll be accused of racism, in others being anti-kid.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Finding people to do some of the more onerous jobs like operating spot welders on an auto line was getting very difficult to do no matter how well paid. This is why billions have been invested in robot welding in auto production. The robots never get tired, want vacations or pensions and never need to take a break. Giant tree cutting machines have replaced loggers in the forests.

In another thread someone asked why become an college educated lawyer and go to work for a big company at $20/hr and 16 hr days for a few years instead of receiving some vocational training and getting a union job at $25/hr after a year or so? The answer is simple. After a few years the lawyer will be making $100/hr or more and the tradesman will still be making $25/hr or less and the lawyer will get more respect from society. The latter is the most important factor.


That is why much of society considers trade school a dead end for their children.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Do you really think that the average Millennial with a liberal arts degree working at Starbucks in a big city is going to move to Dayton, OH for a $50/hr blue collar job?
$50/hour is $104K a year. What are you talking about?
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Inland FL
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This 23 year old millennial would.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Do you really think that the average Millennial with a liberal arts degree working at Starbucks in a big city is going to move to Dayton, OH for a $50/hr blue collar job?
That's silly, there are a lot of low wage workers that would love to work for even a living wage in a manufacturing job.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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In another thread someone asked why become an college educated lawyer and go to work for a big company at $20/hr and 16 hr days for a few years instead of receiving some vocational training and getting a union job at $25/hr after a year or so? The answer is simple. After a few years the lawyer will be making $100/hr or more and the tradesman will still be making $25/hr or less and the lawyer will get more respect from society. The latter is the most important factor.

The average lawyer salary is $133k/yr, which is less than $100/hr (unless they're somehow working part-time at a $100/hr rate), it takes more than just "a few years" to get there, and they start out with $150,000+ in debt. Your argument also makes the false assumption that the fresh-out-of-law-school lawyer is more motivated and has more room for income growth than the tradesman. In fact, the field of Law is known to be a pyramid structure where only a few make it to the level of 6 figures. Remember that with how averages are calculated, if you have 1 person making $250k/yr and 2 people making $40k/yr, the average salary of that group is $110k/yr.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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Ofcourse they will. Not everyone loves the big city, especially not me. I have given up job offers in big cities like nyc, LA, chicago, boston, houston to settle in a mid size town with friendly neighbors, low cost of living & less traffic. I have lived in bigger cities & hated the traffic, feeling of loneliness despite the crowds, long commutes & matchbox size apartments. I settled for a mid size town that is easy to get around & has decent job market. I can spend more time with family & have a social life. Big cities do not attract everyone.
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