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Old 10-19-2016, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Soooo... Does anyone else find it troubling that the guy who wants his finger on the button would trust his gut over the judgement of many independent intelligence agencies?

His intelligence briefing tells him that there was some rogue agents doing something, but he reeeeally thinks it was N. Korea so... *Boom*?
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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Hillary would do anything she wants and just lie to the American people. She has been doing it and getting away with it, so why would she ever stop. Now that is scary.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:02 PM
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Do we really believe anything that comes out of this regime? F No
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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Is there actual hard evidence it was Russia? Because when I have seen that question asked, there hasn't been any hard evidence offered.

If there is no evidence, I'd rather reserve judgment before antagonizing a nuclear superpower.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:28 PM
 
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I am no fan of Trump, but I do not have much faith there is not pressure from the administration on the intel agencies to put some bias on things like this. We already see that there was pressure from the administration to downplay the ISIS threat, and the intel agencies despite their huge resources, have missed the target a few times.

Problem is, we will never know either way until they declassify the documents, or someone leaks them.

In any case; are the Democrats saying things so bad over email that they are scared of something?
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:32 PM
 
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I see so Russia spies on us.

We' ve been caught spying on our allies.


Why the United States Spies on Germany | The Fiscal Times


So basically what Hillary is saying is if she sends a mail bomb through the Russian postal service, and it blows up in your face, why you need to see Russia about that.

That is besides the fact that anyone who thinks IP tracing is accurate is a moron and knows nothing about Internet protocols. Assage is associated with his own hacker group which isn't a secret.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Hillary's "intelligence agencies" include the DNC, CNN, MSNBC, HuffPoo, NYT, etc, etc. No facts to back up her claims. Now...if Russia or anyone else can so readily "hack" the DNCs servers...exactly what does it say for the unsecured home PC she used for classified government work? How much did that cost this country, in terms of lives and sources lost? She commits a criminal act and tries to deflect by accusing Trump of being Putin's butt buddy. I don't think even her supporters are dumb enough to buy that one.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:50 PM
 
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Is there actual hard evidence it was Russia? Because when I have seen that question asked, there hasn't been any hard evidence offered.

If there is no evidence, I'd rather reserve judgment before antagonizing a nuclear superpower.
Intelligence agencies rarely provide evidence. Not necessarily because they desire to deceive people, but because providing the proof would compromise future intelligence. Folks are right-IP addresses aren't evidence of actual source. But humint, hacking, and electronic interception all are providing us with our intelligence.

Yeah it sucks, you have to take their word on it. But they have no benefit in lying to the president or others about this. Getting it wrong is too dangerous. You only commit if you have good cause to know.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:54 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Is there actual hard evidence it was Russia? Because when I have seen that question asked, there hasn't been any hard evidence offered.

If there is no evidence, I'd rather reserve judgment before antagonizing a nuclear superpower.
Hillary is already starting her next war. This time with Russia.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:56 PM
 
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Is there actual hard evidence it was Russia? Because when I have seen that question asked, there hasn't been any hard evidence offered.

If there is no evidence, I'd rather reserve judgment before antagonizing a nuclear superpower.
I thought the US claims to be so technologically superior to the Russians that it's going to make some cyber attack that's going to devastate Russia.

But when it comes to the election and the need to place Hillary in office the Russians are sooooo superior to the dim brains in the US Government and DNC that they can't stop Russian hacks. I mean, at least counter punch like in boxing, and produce from your superior minds and superior cyber skills emails you the US Govern,net have hacked from Russia the most evil empire on earth?

But nada.

If the US Government is not telling lies about Russia and Putin then police in the United States who protect Black-Americans, the beloved citizens of the USA, then police aren't telling lies about Black-Americans when they shoot them down.

After all, American police love in their hearts Black-Americans more than the Russians they hate in their hearts.

Hillary, the police, scientists they all lie.

I mean as innocent as Hillary and the DNC are, as evil and corrupt as the Russians are, you would think the Russian emails would have 100 times more incremodating info. Especially as "tough" and super smarter Hillary and the neocons and liberals are over the Russians, they would have all of that I for and be giving it to wiikileaks.

Either these people are a lot more dumb than the Russians and incompetent or the Russians simply are no where near as evil or probably not even involved or as involved as the clowns in the US Government claim.

Would Hillary be appalled if the Russians hacked the Vatican emails and gave to wikileaks info about Vatican banks laundering drug money, or calling lay Catholics naive? No, she would be condemning the Vatican. But I'm supposed to give this broad a pass who if I ever got in trouble would not come and pay my bail so I could get out of jail? Yeah, I don't think so.
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