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Old 03-25-2017, 11:19 PM
 
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This writer passed for White for so many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatole_Broyard
Notice the article points out that he didn't fool the brothers.

 
Old 03-26-2017, 12:44 AM
 
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This writer passed for White for so many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatole_Broyard
He was pretty white, certainly with much more Euro than African ancestry. Should he be faulted for not observing the one-drop rule?

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Old 03-26-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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He was pretty white, certainly with much more Euro than African ancestry. Should he be faulted for not observing the one-drop rule?
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"No one is free until everyone is free" -- Fannie Lou Hamer.

If the social policy of that day had been the same as it is today, the answer could be, "no." But the "one-drop" rule was actually codified into the law in those days, particularly in Louisiana.

The brothers did him a solid keeping their knowledge within the community.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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The one drop rule is not really used by many today that I know of.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Overall I guess my point is that in Louisiana we go from being as dark as charcoal to being as quite fair skinned and that one should be proud of their blackness regardless of how dark or light they are. With that being said, how do you feel about racial pride overall?
 
Old 03-26-2017, 06:59 AM
 
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He was pretty white, certainly with much more Euro than African ancestry. Should he be faulted for not observing the one-drop rule?

French Creoles | Letter to the Editor
Jesse Williams from "Grey's Anatomy" also has a white mother and A black father (who I believe also has Samoan ancestry), and yet the white does show a bit more in him. That said, he identifies more with his black side.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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Jesse Williams from "Grey's Anatomy" also has a white mother and A black father (who I believe also has Samoan ancestry), and yet the white does show a bit more in him. That said, he identifies more with his black side.
Jesse Williams has said that part of his impetus came from what he heard as a child from white people who forgot he was in the room.

I suspect that in his times, Anatole Broyard heard much worse--perhaps even plots of violence against other blacks. In order to "pass" in that society, it was necessary for a man to absolutely reject his family and childhood friends, to have nothing to do with them, to never speak to them again, to ignore their existence, to pretend to be an absolutely different person with a totally manufactured past.

Yeah, I can fault him.

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Old 03-26-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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He was pretty white, certainly with much more Euro than African ancestry. Should he be faulted for not observing the one-drop rule?

French Creoles | Letter to the Editor
This is what I will say. If he had lived anywhere else but America, he could forego that one-drop rule. I'm not faulting him for anything. I'm just saying "it is what it is". He was light enough to "pass". However, if anyone found out he had any amount of Black ancestry, he would be considered Black. Simply how things are.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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Overall I guess my point is that in Louisiana we go from being as dark as charcoal to being as quite fair skinned and that one should be proud of their blackness regardless of how dark or light they are. With that being said, how do you feel about racial pride overall?
This is how I feel. Being of a certain race/ethnicity should not be something to be ashamed of. When it comes to pride, I wonder about that pride. One can take pride in something they do. Racial pride, well, I see it like this. In many cases, it gets to the point of arrogance and hate. In some cases, people mistaken pride for vanity/hate/exclusivity.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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Jesse Williams has said that part of his impetus came from what he heard as a child from white people who forgot he was in the room.

I suspect that in his times, Anatole Broyard heard much worse--perhaps even plots of violence against other blacks. In order to "pass" in that society, it was necessary for a man to absolutely reject his family and childhood friends, to have nothing to do with them, to never speak to them again, to ignore their existence, to pretend to be an absolutely different person with a totally manufactured past.

Yeah, I can fault him.

Inside Jesse's Head

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Broyard's father got into a carpenter's union at a time when it was racially discriminatory. He had to pass just to get work. For Broyard, father and son, "passing" meant the difference between getting good work and getting bad work. For Anatole, it meant making it to the rank of captain in the army, a segregated army.

It would not surprise me if those passing for White heard alot of nasty things about Blacks during those days. It was basically about survival. For anyone who says things were better in the 50s, this alone should show it wasn't.
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